saw a headline on yahoo this morning, most of yahoo news is about as right on as a supermarket taboliod , but it says the mi governer is going to start killing hogs and arresting ranchers who own them, based on the hair color of the hogs, any truth here is this the work of a bored reporter, what gives ?
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Ultradog MN
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ok, kind of like the feral hogs down our way? these wild hogs are mean as they come, if ya see one you better kill it because it sure has that in mind for you, i know in texas they hunt those, then give the meat to the needy and homeless,, not bad, less wild hogs, feed the poor
From what I've seen, it's the "wild" species that they're banning.
The problem is not when they're penned up. The problem is they are naturally wild and want to run.
They WILL get out, and when they get out, they're GONE. You'll never find them again, they'll multiply like rabbits, and now you've got a wild hog problem...
Slow smoked for 16 hours over mesquite, though... Them's good eatin'.
The problem is not when they're penned up. The problem is they are naturally wild and want to run.
They WILL get out, and when they get out, they're GONE. You'll never find them again, they'll multiply like rabbits, and now you've got a wild hog problem...
Slow smoked for 16 hours over mesquite, though... Them's good eatin'.
These are imported wild hogs. Brought in by "enclosed" game farms for "pay to play" hunting. Of course sooner or later, they'll escape. They do very well in the wild, reproducing rapidly. They are very destructive to the enviornment, especially to established farming. They may carry and transmit various livestock diseases. They will be very unwelcome in urban areas as well. Basically an invasive species.
While there will be a loss to those game farms that will be required to eliminate their stocks, the risk to other farms, and the environment will be greatly reduced.
I have a couple domestic hog operations within a couple miles of us. To their credit, the operators have been very careful with their stocks, and I have never seen an escapee here on my farm. But, if they, or any wild hogs make it here, there's boing to be some serious hunting going on.
Michigan has had a "shoot on sight" advisory for hunters for several years. Any hunter, with any hunting license, or any concealed weapon carrier is authorized to take feral (wild) hogs. This new initiative is an attempt to remove the hogs at the source instead of cleaning up at the end. Many farmers in other states, where the problem has gotten out of hand, will tell you what a nightmare feral hogs are.
While there will be a loss to those game farms that will be required to eliminate their stocks, the risk to other farms, and the environment will be greatly reduced.
I have a couple domestic hog operations within a couple miles of us. To their credit, the operators have been very careful with their stocks, and I have never seen an escapee here on my farm. But, if they, or any wild hogs make it here, there's boing to be some serious hunting going on.
Michigan has had a "shoot on sight" advisory for hunters for several years. Any hunter, with any hunting license, or any concealed weapon carrier is authorized to take feral (wild) hogs. This new initiative is an attempt to remove the hogs at the source instead of cleaning up at the end. Many farmers in other states, where the problem has gotten out of hand, will tell you what a nightmare feral hogs are.
The news outlets seem to be slanting this towards "government screwing poor farmers" but really it's a serious public health and safety issue, not to mention the economic impact.
These things are not the cute little pink piggies at the petting zoo. These are ferocious man-eaters. They eat ANYTHING, including your dog, your kid, even YOU. If a pack of wild hogs drags you off, there won't be a trace of you left.
I would bet you'd be all in favor of this law if someone you knew was eaten by wild hogs.
These things are not the cute little pink piggies at the petting zoo. These are ferocious man-eaters. They eat ANYTHING, including your dog, your kid, even YOU. If a pack of wild hogs drags you off, there won't be a trace of you left.
I would bet you'd be all in favor of this law if someone you knew was eaten by wild hogs.
Texasmark1
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I didn't realize this problem had spread that far North. The news reports I read and pictures I have seen of them and them in action is of a Russian hog, very large, long body, very large and long snout with predominant tusks, very hairy back "withers on back"; will attack humans.
Apparently hunting affiliated something/someone from the Georgia area went to Russia and got some of these hogs with the idea that they would make for good sport.
Well that might be the case but it's the rest of the equation that is causing problems. I expect them here on my farm any day. Texas has no restriction on them and I will have to deal with them as others have and my neighbors will. Not sure what that is going to be.
We have 2 new lakes going in about 10 miles N and E of my farm and those bottoms are known to have these hogs along with some domestics that got out years ago and reproduced. When these bottoms fill, these hogs are going to scatter and that is when the problems will start, I'm sure.
Mark
Apparently hunting affiliated something/someone from the Georgia area went to Russia and got some of these hogs with the idea that they would make for good sport.
Well that might be the case but it's the rest of the equation that is causing problems. I expect them here on my farm any day. Texas has no restriction on them and I will have to deal with them as others have and my neighbors will. Not sure what that is going to be.
We have 2 new lakes going in about 10 miles N and E of my farm and those bottoms are known to have these hogs along with some domestics that got out years ago and reproduced. When these bottoms fill, these hogs are going to scatter and that is when the problems will start, I'm sure.
Mark
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There is alot of misinformation out there on this subject, even some of it on here. I am posting an article from a close friend of my families, speaking about his opposition to the DNR's overreach in this situation.
Senator Boohers hog article
Senator Boohers hog article
It seems like there's a comment about Michigan wild hogs on here every other day. Have the wild hogs become a big problem in MI, or is this just the government trying to take preventative measures to keep them out of the state?
Two counties over from me (over in Wisconsin) they've had them for a decade or more, but they don't seem to be spreading out or anything. I see hunters advertising on craigslist all the time asking farmers if they could please come hunt wild hogs if they see any. It doesn't seem like there's much of a control problem over that way unless a landowner wants there to be. Maybe that's the problem?
Two counties over from me (over in Wisconsin) they've had them for a decade or more, but they don't seem to be spreading out or anything. I see hunters advertising on craigslist all the time asking farmers if they could please come hunt wild hogs if they see any. It doesn't seem like there's much of a control problem over that way unless a landowner wants there to be. Maybe that's the problem?
<a href="http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/Americas/September-08/Texas-Man-Charged-With-Loosing-Feral-Pigs-in-Wisconsin--.html">Story on WI Feral Pigs</a>.
"Authorities are charging Robert Scott Johnson of San Marcos, Texas, with releasing 30 pigs into Crawford County, Wis., in February 2002."
Idiot.
"Authorities are charging Robert Scott Johnson of San Marcos, Texas, with releasing 30 pigs into Crawford County, Wis., in February 2002."
Idiot.
Yep. There's a small area two counties over from me where a "hunting lodge" had some in a fenced in area. Lodge shut down and the gates were left open. They have spread a few miles the last several years. Farmers in the area will p*** and moan all day about them, if some one ask to come in and shoot them the farmers in area all think the privilege of shoothing them should be worth every bit of $500 for a weekend,,, and they will tell you not to shoot any sows,,,,,
Dave
Dave
I posted the latest article about all this on this forum a few weeks ago. The bad part of is - there is no definite way to say what is a "wild pig" and what is not. Appointing people to come out and order pigs killed when in private ownership,on private property - often by a clueless government worker - is kind of scary. And that IS what Michigan has been proposing. Some heritage breeds of domestic pigs have the same traits as wild hogs.
Even though they say they do not intend to interfere with domestic operations, some legitimate operations that raise some of the heritage brees are concerned.
I think they have a real concern.
Read it for yourselves guys
pat sublett
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There has always been feral hogs. People kept them under controll. Made sausage out of them in the olden days before everybody moved to town. Once they get out of hand, they are hard to controll. Member a bunch of hogs cut "Old Yeller" up. The coons, fox, cayotes, and skunks are out of controll around my place. People used to trap them and sell the fur but not anymore.
What's really got out of controll is politicians, too much money in it. Need someway to controll them. I'm not suggesting trapping them or shooting them but we need a way to cage them before they destroy us.
What's really got out of controll is politicians, too much money in it. Need someway to controll them. I'm not suggesting trapping them or shooting them but we need a way to cage them before they destroy us.
I am all for the free market but having a species of wild hogs running loose, in any state is bad. Just look at the Emerald ash borer bug. This bug was not taken seriously at first and this infestation has killed millions of trees. And this bug will continue to spread. There is no way to stop it now. Just think about the hog problem in Texas and other areas. I cant imagine having my crops wrecked by an animal that I cant control or stop.
Texasmark1
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I mean this is real touching and all the pictures and serving the country and all is really pulling out the tears, but the fact is, these Russian hogs are killers and I am going to have to deal with them in the very near future. So, go cry somewhere else.
Mark
Mark
Texasmark1
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You are a smart man. Problem is, they are already out of control. The country as a whole gives them a 79% disapproval rating but they keep on going about business as usual. They know full well that they will get reelected if they shovel enough pork the right places. Nature of the business.
Mark
Mark
Texasmark1
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Well sir, not to rain on your parade, but that is what "wild hogs" used to be.....that is until some slease bag went to Russia and brought over some of those suckers for "hunting sport". Well now they are part of the wild hog population and they are not the domesticated type you and I are used to. They are killers and I am going to have to deal with them in the near future. Problem is, I have neighbors that have move in on me in the last 30 years and if I go shooting off a high powered rifle to kill one of these SOB's I am going to have to be concerned about where the round MIGHT go.
Mark
Mark
Texasmark1
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So who elected these dipstick politicians?????? Landowners?
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