Child labor rules NOT stopped!!!!!

All the DOL announced was that they are going to revert to the old definition of parental ownership.

"Until the (final decision), the Wage and Hour Division will revert to its earlier enforcement practice. The exemption will be applied in situations where the parent, or person standing in place of the parent, is a part-owner of the farm, a partner in a partnership or an officer of a corporation that owns the farm if the ownership interest in the partnership or corporation is substantial.”

"The re-proposal of the parental exemption is in an effort to reflect current farm ownership structures and respect rural farming traditions, a Department of Labor official who did not want to be identified said in a conference call Wednesday with the media.

She said the remainder of the changes to the child labor in agriculture rule now will move forward."

HERE ARE SOME OF THE NEW rules summarized:

"They've expanded that to say that students can't work with any animal husbandry practice like breeding, branding, dehorning or treating sick animals," she said. "They aren't allowed to catch chickens in preparation for market, and they can't herd animals in confined spaces or on horseback or using ATVs or other motorized vehicles."

*New Ag H.O. 13
• Prohibit the employment of young hired farm workers in occupations involving the production and curing of tobacco in order to prevent them suffering from green tobacco sickness (GTS).
• Includes, but not limited to, planting, cultivating, topping, harvesting, baling, barning, and curing of tobacco.

New Non-Ag HO 18
• Occupations in farm-product raw materials wholesale trade industries
– Includes, but not limited to: most occupations performed at country grain elevators, grain elevators, grain bins, silos, feed lots, feed yards, stockyards, livestock exchanges, and livestock auctions.

Revise and Renumber as Ag H.O. 7
• Occupations involving work on roofs, scaffolds, and at elevations greater than 6 feet.
• Expand to include work on elevated farm structures including silos, grain bins, windmills, and towers; and vehicles, machines, and implements.
• Reduces the maximum height at which youth under age 16 may work at elevation from 20 feet to 6 feet, including work on ladders.

Retain and Expand Ag H.O. 4
• *Expand the current Ag H.O. to prohibit Certain Occupations Involving Working With or Around Animals. It would prohibit the following:
– working on a farm in a yard, pen, or stall occupied by an intact (not castrated) male equine, porcine, bovine, or bison older than six months, a sow with suckling pigs, or cow with new born calf (with umbilical cord present);
– engaging or assisting in animal husbandry practices that inflict pain upon the animal and/or are likely to result in unpredictable animal behavior such as, but not limited to, branding, breeding, dehorning, vaccinating, castrating, and treating sick or injured animals;
– handling animals with known dangerous behaviors;
– poultry catching or cooping in preparation for slaughter or market; and
– herding animals in confined spaces such as feed lots or corrals, or on horseback, or using motorized vehicles such as trucks or all terrain vehicles.


I have found this link to an article that Marshfield Clinic has posted that show the old rules and the new rule plus the changes. It is a very good article summing up what they are trying to do.
The 2012 Blueprint for Protecting Children in Agriculture,

That part about being in a pen with a sow and suckling pigs reminds how I learned to run fast. If I remember right we nnalert them, clipped their teeth, and maybe cut their tales. I would run in the pen and get them and dart to the nearest fence and then give the next one to dad. I wonder why they think that is unsafe roll

Mine are all grown but I doubt my Sons will let this or any other law stop them from teaching their own children the way they want them taught.

And WHO do they think will be left to take over the family farm in the future??? Or is that the point, to eliminate the family farm!!!!! Suppose they figure you can learn every thing from a book. They dont give us the people credit for having enough smarts to make any GOOD desisions, OH wait maybe their right we did VOTE them in. Rocko.

You know,it's no fun getting old,but I'm glad I was born when I was. If my son would get this danged fool idea about wanting to farm out of his head,I'd be out'a here so fast I'd leave skid marks. It's just a lost cause with these wack jobs in control.

Keep in mind that this is a Child Labor law. It applies to situations where someone has hired a child under the age of 16.

It doesn't apply to your own children, working on your own farm. The use of current ownership rules mean that you simply need to own a stake in the farm, not 100%.

I'm curious how many people are routinely hiring kids under the age of 16?

Things around here and the neighbors farms might have been somewhat dangerous when I was a kid, but it taught me a lot, and kept me from playing in traffic...

– poultry catching or cooping in preparation for slaughter or market; and


Why is poultry catching dangerous?? I've done it for a long time, my kids do to. Dangerous is catching the geese I have for slaughter.

Rick

It's kinda like a US Representative asked a DOL representative in a hearing. I'm a little fuzzy on it,but this is the slant of it. He said that his 10 year old son was working for the owner of the largest newspaper in the state on his farm,rounding up sheep with an 80cc motor bike,made for youth riders. Was it illegal for him to be riding that bike to round up sheep on somebody elses farm other than his own. The look on the face of the woman from the DOL was priceless while her brain spun in the mud looking for an answer.

13 would be funny if were not true. Find me some one who claims the got "gts" from setting or stripping tobacco and I will show you some one who just didn't want a job that day. And I thought the new FDA rules for tobacco growers were pretty dumb.

All this does is show every one where farmers really rank as far as gooberment goes. This Nation really is going to have to go hungry for a while before it changes it's ways,,,,,,,, sad really.

Dave

THATS HOW I LEARNED ABOUT HARD WORK.HELPING OUT ON FARMS FROM THE TIME I WAS 12.BEFORE THAT I PULLED WEEDS IN THE GARDENS BECAUSE I WAS TOO YOUNG TO GET OUT OF THE WAY.

Considering how much success we have had during the last 30 years and 6 administrations (3 of each) at stopping the drug trade, controlling non-citizens, and improving education...I guess you are safe from inspections and citations.

That will let you focus on a 30% nationwide high school drop out rate and worry about how your educated kids are going to pay for the hoard of unemployables and the crime they will cause. Mad Max is becoming a reality.

(quoted from post at 10:49:20 02/07/12) Keep in mind that this is a Child Labor law. It applies to situations where someone has hired a child under the age of 16.

It doesn't apply to your own children, working on your own farm. The use of current ownership rules mean that you simply need to own a stake in the farm, not 100%.

I'm curious how many people are routinely hiring kids under the age of 16?

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Yeah I'm confused. I thought people would be happy that a farmer's kids would be exempt from these rules :?

You don t get it, this rule is like most of the other ones that have come from Washington lately. All shall come from the government, health care, labor cost,and the land grab has been coming for ten years now. What you grow and how much you will keep will be told to you as you need to know.

such regulations as these are the reason it's almost impossible to find young people really interested in working ,that has to be instilled into one when they are young, exposure to work brings on comprehension of whats be done and self reliance,not suggesting to put a child doing something that they incapable of doing especially a hazardous or life treating situation, when i was 14 my younger 2 brothers and i worked for my dad at the neighbors sawmill after school and on saturday's when he had logs to saw ,dad didn't have it to do, it was one of the things he done other than his own work teaching us how to work, i turn logs and toted lumber,brothers toted slabs together because most were to heavy for either to tote buy themselves ,sister helped cleaned house washed clothes and cooked for us,got the same pay as we did,we had plenty of free time and never went without the necessities of life, he did instill work ethics that are still with each of us today don't regret a minute of it

I think it is a Right wing plot. If they can keep us all focussed on frivolus stuff like this unenforcable rule, birth certificates, and crapola, we will forget that our R guys were in the lead when the big bank collapse and bailout #1 happened in the fall of 2008, 2 months before the election.

I for one am not going to give our (R) guys a free pass to do it again. How about a real plan not just anti anti anti talk talk talk.

It's obvious that you are the one that is full of "crapola",... as nnalert held the majority in BOTH, the House AND the Senate, starting in 2006. (2 "YEARS" before the election)

So you really think the giant loan mess happened in 20 months between start of"D" control and meltdown? It took lots of years of blindness, while our (R) guys bragged about the number of jobs they had created, based on loans they knew to be bad that were piling up. Did GWB give you a heads up? He sure lead me down the path, after I gave him my "yea" twice.