OT/we're number 2,3 and 10!!

rrlund

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Just saw over on Yahoo a list of the 10 most miserable cities in the country. Detroit was #2,Flint #3 and Warren #10. Can't believe Pontiac didn't make the list. Every city owned piece of property is for sale there,city hall,cemetaries,police station,the works. Better luck next year. Maybe they'll make the list then. If the whole place doesn't sell by then anyway.
 
The Syracuse and Rochester regions are fighting hard for a spot on that list. I never thought I would see the day where Kodak is in the shape it currently is in. Buffalo has lost so much I don't think there is much left to go sour unless the health field becomes unprofitable. I've been wanting to supplement my income like I did in my younger days but it is darn near impossible and make it work around my other commitments.
 
I can see why Detroit and Flint made the list. Like you said,..Pontiac should have made the list. Maybe they aren't reconized as a city any more since the whole city is for sale. Pretty sad and it don't look like things are gonna get better any time soon.
 
It is sad too, the areas with the highest amount of food stamps, welfare checks.....and crime. What a great model for the pro-welfare crowd to look at.
Detroit is soooo bad that I couldnt imagine having to drive there everyday for work. Almost a war zone.
 
What Pontiac does have going for it is that it borders on the wealtheist communities in the state. Kind of wild - a difference of a few inches can mean a different mailing address and 100K in home price. I suspect that Pontiac will someday be comepletely redeveloped - it really isn't too big to start with. On the other hand, Flint's only reason for being is the GM plants. And they are mostly gone.
 
Pontiac is a cesspool, but.....There is an area on the west side of Pontiac that has some very nice older brick homes that were actually a ritzy area a long time ago. One of my former neighbors lived there when she was young. This woman is now 85 at least, if she is still alive. I agree that Bloomfield hills and Bloomfield township make Pontiac not look as bad as it really is.
 
And Detroit and Flint just CAN'T believe the state would appoint a financial manager for them! Why, it MUST be racially modivated (sarcasm). Of course it has nothing to do with the fact that they have run their cities into financial ruin. If you look at the election map from 08 the wonderful places like Detroit, Atlanta, L.A. are what elected obammy.
 
The wife and I were watching the news a week ago and the dumbazzes in the Detroit made the statement that the state's budget surplus should go to the city of Detroit.............Why not just flush the money down the toilet instead.
 
Wow, I can't really add anything. All of the other Michiganders have said it all. Flint, Detroit, Pontiac, all bad. Real bad. I have worked in all of these cities. A few others that needed to be on the list... Hamtramck, Saginaw, Benton Harbor. Funny thing Warren in my opinion is better than any of the others. Kind of a "best of the worst". Warren still has a solid police department.

Thats why I live in the country.

Rick
 
Just goes to show that the old saying is true---there's two Michigans, Detroit area and the rest of us! As different as night and day!
 
Here in America we have a new strategy that the role of state government is to steal jobs from each other. So Tennesee pays foreign car companies $285,000 per job to come to their state. Makes the business of building cars free-labor for 10 years to the newbie, but dumps an equal amount of Lost-jobs in Michigan onto the fed unemployment and welfare rolls. Net taxes, about the same but very painful to the populus.

If federal bailouts of car companies is terrible.... why is state bailout/bribery of foreign car companies OK?

Do you know which car companies have had federal bailouts????

GM & Chrysler.

Nissan, Fiat, Puegeot, HYundai, Kia, Daewoo, Mazda, Jagauar, renault. And all the Chinese car companies.

What you don't know won't hurt you...maybe.

You would never get the prefectures of Japan to fight each other. They are one country, by the people and for the people....not just how can I get a cheaper product for me me me me!!!!!!!It is not about attracting jobs to Osaka that put people in Tokyo out of work.

Governments and companies of Japan, Korea and China are not quite that stupid....but are very glad that we are.

Is America's only strategy..to heck with the jobs that support my SS and Medicare ...I want cheap cars!!! Both selfish and shortsighted.
 
I don't think that there had been a Pontiac built in Pontiac in 20 years. What used to be Pontiac HQ, and engineering was taken over by the Powertrain division back in the 80's and 90's. I used to work for Powertrain, and I went to Pontiac HQ sometimes. Powertrain HQ is still there. Pontiacs were mechanically identical to Chevy, and built on the same lines. And that was the problem - finding folks to pay more for the same thing. Olds was the same problem. I got a coupon once for $1500 off on a Olds Bravada 4x4. Since I was going to buy a 4x4, I went down to the local Chevy - Olds dealer in our small town. Turns out, after the discount, the Olds was still $1800 more than the identical Chevy Trailblazer sitting next to it. That's why Olds and Pontiac died - there wasn't anything there anymore.
 
(quoted from post at 20:17:16 02/03/12) Saw that on the news tonight and Lansing was 12 or 13 so that's 4 in the bottom 20. YUK

Sure don't regret leaving back in '91....feel sorry for the in-laws....
 
Maybe Madison, SD will move up a notch. Little town of some 6 thousand or so just had their first murder since 1906. But maybe it doesn't count as perp drove over there from big city of Watertown (pop 15,000) about 40 miles away.
 
You mean Hamtramckistan, right?

I used to run a lot of Michigan. It wasn't bad other than the 55 MPH truck speed limit, which has been raised to 60, but as long as you paid attention, the cops would at least give you a chance to back it down before pulling you over. Except for around Jackson and Coldwater. Used to get around Detroit metro pretty well, but still liked it better farther west and north.
 

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