john deere hydro pump

I have a 1010 utility with a 710 loader and I need the input shaft for a front mount webster pump the part # id u 12881U from deeer but is no longer available any help would be appreciated you can call me at 1-920-382-6580

It shouldn't be any big deal to fabricate. The pump drive size is not anything unique. Deere used Webster-Electric pumps on early 1010s and then replaced them with Cessnas. The bigger pumps use a 7/8" OD shaft with 13 splines. Very common and used by Case, Ford, IH, Oliver, etc. I just made a new shaft (splined on both ends)from Ford parts I bought on this Website. Smaller pumps use a 3/4" splined shaft.

My 1010 crawler with a 610 loader has the big Webster-Electric pump (around 2.5 cubic-inches-per-rev).

Thinking about making your own shaft? A small,
3/4, or 7/8 shaft is traveling a tremendous
speed in surface , FPM,(feet Per minute). Factory
shafts are quality steel, not common hot or cold
rolled, and are hardened. A Cheap home made shaft
will only last hours. I"ve seen a home made shaft
wipe out the rest of an otherwise good pump!

trying to find someone to make me a shaft I can heat tread it where I work

"Homemade" does not imply "cheap" or inadequate. At least not when I do it. I can't speak for what you've done.

Major companies like Deere, Case, Ford, IH, etc. have commonly used 1035 cold-rolled steel for their smaller 3/4" and 7/8" splined shafts. Cast-iron and cast-steel is used for couplers that drive those shafts. 1045 steel isn't something particularly rare or special or expensive. If a tractor has a keyed shaft, they are easy and cheap to make and just as strong as the originals.

I'll add that is there is not any "tremendous" speed involved here as you claim. Crank-driven pumps and shafts rarely sees 3000 RPM.

Pumps made by Cessna and Webster-Electric usually have standard spine-sizes that are used by many tractor companies. Thus there are many factory made splined shafts available cheap. If you need a 8" long shaft for a Deere? Instead of paying Deere $400 for it, you can buy an aftermarket shaft for a Ford 730 loader that is 13 5/8" long and only costs $25. It is 7/8" OD by 13 splines on both ends just like Deere uses. All is needed is to cut a section out of the center and splice to together with a 2" piece of 7/8" ID DOM alloy-tube. Then weld.

I have made many over the past 50 years and have yet to see one fail. Only wear out over time, like the originals.

I just made a coupler, drive flange and 8" double-splined shaft for my IH 3414. Used parts bought on this site and it cost me $75 total. From IH industrial (Komatsu) the price was $750. So I made something that's stronger then the original for 1/10th the cost.

Why got through that trouble? Buy a premade aftermarket shaft and cut to the proper length you need. The splines will already be made and heat-treated. All you have to do is shorten to fit your specific tractor. This Website sells many splined shafts for loader pump drives -some are less then $30. Shafts for 720 and 730 Ford loaders are often the cheapest and also the longest.

Much cheaper to replace the Webster-Electric GPM pump with a Cessna. That's what Deere did around 1961.

The Webster-Electric pump used on the Deere loader is a 2 cubic-inch--per-rev gear pump rated at 23 GPMs max. Has a standard two-bolt SAE-B two-bolt mount and the shaft is 7/8" X 13 splines. It's a very common pump and usually replaced with a Cessna model 25504RSA (25 GPM) or 25503RSA (23 GPM) You can buy new for $349 at Surplus Sales. There is also a place down south that still sells new 23 GPM Webster pumps for $250 , but I have to dig around to find that info.

http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-4067-A&catname=hydraulic


http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=9-4066-A&catname=hydraulic

Splined couplers are also available at many places . . .

$8.50 at the same place that has the pumps . .

Also a more tractor-specific coupler from YT Tractors as part # 7707570 for $25 . .

http://www.ytmag.com/cgi-bin/store/search_parts.cgi


http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=1-1392&catname=hydraulic