the down side of contractors ......

Unbelieveable..... Buildings here on post are mostly WWII or pre WWII era buildings with about a gazillion windows in them. Windows all have these rollup shutters (?) that are stuccod in on the outside of the building above the windows.
Remodel time and the buildings are getting 6 inches of styrofoam insulation on the outside and restuccod/painted along with new "shutters"... so...
One contractor came along and built the scaffolding, another came and measured to order the new roller shutters... Foam guys came and covered the building, stucco folks stucco'd and put on the primer paint coat... someone realized today that the new rolers have not been installed and all the windows were insulated/stuccod to small to allow for replacement and will have to be chipped/cut out.

Never a dull moment around here :roll:

They must have been vying for the Darwin award :roll:

joke is... landscape crew were working along a highway... One would dig the hole, next would set the tree/bush, next filled the hole and the last watered it.... one day they were zooming along... dug the hole, filled it in, and watered it... Boss came around and asked where the trees were... They's in the truck, Hans is sick today.......

That's a classic mis-coordination of trades/sub contractors. Isn't there someone watching over the job, is this a U.S. government project ?

All you need is some drawings, elevations of the buildings, sections of same showing details. You take the elevations, tag/ID the windows, how many types/sizes etc., make a window schedule, showing agreed upon rough opening sizes that the new insulation will create for the shutters in each window type, (coordinated drawing) then have each contractor over for a meeting, go over it, have them initial the drawings, agree on it, keep on file, same with meeting minutes. Assign someone to monitor daily,(should be a construction manager on site anyway) and physically check each rough opening as the work progresses, signing off on that drawing that X amount of rough openings are acceptable for shutter installation, get so many ahead and get that shutter sub contractor rolling behind you. With all the C.A.D. software and programs, this is an easy task to create some sort of drawings as mentioned. Sub contractors usually create, submit for approval, shop drawings, that in effect do the same thing, everyone agrees on it, it gets monitored, corrections assigned to whoever is responsible if not acceptable and the job is always moving, no BS delays.

We used to see this all the time on high rises, masonry contractor is supposed to hold the dimensions on approved shop drawings, say for a masonry, brick/block, precast what have you. Those shop drawings are supposed to be reviewed and coordinated with the architectural dwg's by the designer, though the C.M. (construction manager) should always be in the loop on this too, they keep approved shop drawings on site for their use, mostly to monitor. Once you have those drawings set up, those openings get checked, (invest in one of those Hilti laser measuring devices) set that Hilti tool in the opening it records the dimensions, you take appropriate action if their are any problems. The key to this is to stay right with the mason, any openings are wrong, reject and direct same to correct, so when the window guy shows up, they fit and his production is not hindered by BS mistakes like these.

I used to live for this crap, was always part of my job either on the contracting side or C.M. side.


LOL ... who is running that job, they need someone to come over there and straighten em out, I am available LOL !!! there probably was an RFP at the beginning of the job for a C.M. LOL. Well... in reality most contractors appreciate the help so they can do their work without excess problems, complete same, and send a bill, go on to the next one, some are obstinate, adversarial, clueless to these things, a good C.M. can be a helpful entity in these situations, object is to get em in/out with acceptable work, and pay em.

I had a client who wanted to bid a guvment job. Brought in the specs, including "prevailing wage" required on the job.

If you dug a hole, you were a "Laborer", and wage was $36 per hour. But if you dug a hole and planted a tree in it, you're a "Landscaper", and wage is $12 per hour. Not hard to sort out the union "crafts" from the non-union.

And they wonder why the country is headed down the drain?

In Louisville they stripped and paved Third Street near the airport. Looked real nice. A couple days later Bell south or MSD, can't remember, cut a trench about six blocks long right through the new work. Nice photo in the paper. LOL

That's why there is supposed to be a general contractor.

Sounds likes Standard operating procedure , Same here in Az. Just as soon as they fix a nice street there not happy until some one comes in & cuts & digs it up.
Idiots in in Engeering Dept. Can t see the trees for the forest.

Kinda sounds like our local highways department. Contractor comes in and lays down a real nice backtop job on a local road. County highways comes along and lays a tar and chip "sealer" on top of it. Now, the road is rough and bumpy again and nicks all of the vehicles that use it, plus the added redecoration of cars, trucks and tractors with tar coated chunks of stone all over.

Heck, back home they used to come along and tar/chip the road. Next month they would come by with a road grader and grade the new tar and chip ripping it to shreds. The excuse was it was still classified as a gravel road. Taxpayer money wasted.

Ever wonder why the roads stink in WV? Stupidity has a role...

Aaron

You don't understand, the contract to fix the
buildings is NOT about fixing buildings! The
highway department fixing roads is NOT about
providing you roads so you can get to town. The
local social/human services department is NOT
about helping people get better. You ask then
WHAT are they all about? Union jobs and
compensation for political supporters so the
unions can give more of YOUR money to the
politicians that will give them MORE work so they
can give MORE money to the politicians. Until we
are smart enough to de-elect (just made that up)
any politician that gets government union backing
we'll continue to have these problems.