Anonymous-0
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With a few exceptions, home schooling is akin to child abuse! Do the home schoolers also do surgery, dentistry, and embalming in their garage?
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Bob Huntress
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Tom, I'm guessing that you are actually of average or better intelligence, and that you are merely pretending to be an idiot. When a doctor says that he was homeschooled, he means that during elementary school and prehaps high school they were homeschooled. In some cases they took some college either online or thru the mail. They actually went to a regular medical school. Most people who homeschool their children use a commercial course. In some states, such as Tennessee, commercial courses are accredited thru the state, and in states like Louisiana, the public school offers an online course for homeschoolers. I'm not a big fan of that, however. Homeschoolers have a long tradition of academic excellence, that it's critics can't deny. Even without any reference to religion or political objectives, the bottom line of schooling is to produce alumni capable of doing reading, writing, math and science. In this homeschoolers preform at a much higher level than public schools. It is that simple. If parents are sending kids to public school for anyother reason than to learn the core subject material, they are missing the concept of education. All the extra activities are just that, extra.
Education isn't everything. People also have to interact properly with others when they go out into the real world.
Spending 12 years with your mom or dad and siblings without interacting with other children is hurting their social abilities.
Even as an engineer, I have to deal with people all day long - some I like, some I don't. You can't wait to develop those skills after you "graduate" from home school.
Spending 12 years with your mom or dad and siblings without interacting with other children is hurting their social abilities.
Even as an engineer, I have to deal with people all day long - some I like, some I don't. You can't wait to develop those skills after you "graduate" from home school.
Bob Huntress
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Jim, homeschool students do interact with other children. In this area, and in NY and LA that I know of, they go to activities at Homeschool coops, where the ever growing number of parents get to gather each week and the children do activities. Most homeschool students are also active in local 4H clubs, as well as church groups and others. My daughter, for instance, played clarinet in the homeschool band a few years. I understand what you are saying, Jim. Your point isn't lost, and appears to be far more sincere than the original post, but, with homeschool growing as much as it is, children have just as many activities as the public school system provides, relatively speaking.
The reason that homeschooling has become such a hot button issue is that since it has exploded in numbers over the last couple decades, there are enough examples to compare the public schools to. This means that as schools fight to get more money, a more productive option is now in plain view to contrast the public school system. Traditionally, public schools could argue that because the budgets of private schools and church schools were higher, the public schools couldn't be held to those same academic standards. Today homeschoolers are producing better academic standards, and more alarming to public school advocates, they are doing it on a comparatively shoestring budget.
The reason that homeschooling has become such a hot button issue is that since it has exploded in numbers over the last couple decades, there are enough examples to compare the public schools to. This means that as schools fight to get more money, a more productive option is now in plain view to contrast the public school system. Traditionally, public schools could argue that because the budgets of private schools and church schools were higher, the public schools couldn't be held to those same academic standards. Today homeschoolers are producing better academic standards, and more alarming to public school advocates, they are doing it on a comparatively shoestring budget.
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HE IS A WEASEL.
4020deereboy
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I sure didn"t gain any social skills from my 11 1/2 years of hell I can tell you that much
He must have made bail. Or he found out where Mommy hid his computer. Either way,he's got it back down in his room in her basement and thought he had to enlighten us with his brilliant insite again before she found out.
Tom honey? Is your Mommy OK? You didn't hurt her again did you? Do we need to send somebody over?
Tom?
Tom?
Tom honey? Is your Mommy OK? You didn't hurt her again did you? Do we need to send somebody over?
Tom?
Tom?
Today homeschoolers are producing better academic standards, and more alarming to public school advocates, they are doing it on a comparatively shoestring budget.[/quote]
Bob
What exactly does that bunch of gibberish mean?
Do you mean standardized test scores? If that is what you meant, you are wrong. Home schooling is not done on a comparatively shoe string budget. There are hidden cost to home schooling that you are not accounting for.
Bob
What exactly does that bunch of gibberish mean?
Do you mean standardized test scores? If that is what you meant, you are wrong. Home schooling is not done on a comparatively shoe string budget. There are hidden cost to home schooling that you are not accounting for.
I don,t know where you are getting your information BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING. I have a sister in law that is home schooling her son, my nephew, and that is the worst possible situation. And I remember years ago when a congresman home schooled and because the brat wanted to be on the school ball team the nut congresman sued the school to get his kid on the team, he was from just either the next county or 2 counties away from me.
Phil in Pa
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Seems to have worked for Tim Tebow.
Fine young man.
But really, it's how people protect their loved ones from abundant indoctrination.
I'm all for it.
Fine young man.
But really, it's how people protect their loved ones from abundant indoctrination.
I'm all for it.
Bob Huntress
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I mean that since the academic levels are so much higher than public school, issues are imagined that have nothing to do with school. Did you notice the one I was answering started his response with something about education not being everything? Really!? When it comes to school it certainly is. Why would anyone say something like that? Why would we send kids to school? To learn the core subjects, and since that isn't happening at public schools, advocates for public schools manufacture all these other reasons why someone might still go to the public schools, even though learning core subjects isn't happening. I believe that the growth of homeschooling threatens funding for public schools. Look at the current requirements of No Child Left Behind. If schools are unable to maintain the test scores, they lose funding, and who will support throwing money at a school where only 40% pass the test, when the homeschoolers in that area have 80-90% passing? I feel that money motivates public school supporters to advance foolish arguements, such as education isn't everything.
Bob Huntress
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Here are so numbers for you, Leroy. You will notice that the information is not based on one or two isolated examples.
I don,t know where you are getting your information
I don,t know where you are getting your information
Ky. Hauler
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Gee, I arrested kids who graduated from a high school run by the 'tards. They could not spell the name of the school. Your opinion is not valid. Never had a home schooler call me pig, either.
Ky. Hauler
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Yabbut, you will have control over who they run with. Again, not valid.
Ky. Hauler
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Again not valid. Some people should not home school because they, get this, got their education from a public school.
Ky. Hauler
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Again not valid. Some people should not home school because they, get this, got their education from a public school.
Ky. Hauler
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Naw, he paid his rent. Back home again.
I can't believe I'm jumping in on this topic but I can't keep silent any longer. I spent 33 years in public education as a teacher and administrator. I am proud and satisfied that our community school is offering students a good education and preparing them for the world if they want it and have parent support. There are good home schools, public schools, charter schools, parochial schools, private schools, etc., etc., etc. There are also bad ones in all of those examples. I once had a parent that was upset with our school that "home schooled " her kids for a year and a half and then sent them back after she had all she could stand. The kids were at least one year behind their former classmates. Any school from the above list is only as good as the attitudes and efforts of those doing the educating and being educated. Our public community school has a good reputation and good parental support. It also has dedicated teachers that care about kids. I won't bash home schools as a whole but at the same time I'll stand up for public schools that are doing the task as it should be done. I'm guessing there are other educators on this site that feel the same way. Are there problems in public education? Absolutely, but that doesn't always make for bad schools. The same goes for home schooling. I salute those in all schools that are dedicated to the awesome task.
pat sublett
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I see by the response to my post on Home Schooling that some are confused about Home Schooling.
When some people paint their tractor, they paint right over the grease. They should not be considered as serious refurbishers. Simply keeping your children out of public schools doesn’t make you a home schooler. Home schooling means the parents accept the responsibility of educating their children rather than turning them over to the Government. They shop for books, videos, and programs like we shop for tractor parts. They use any and every means to educate their children, academically and socially They work with other parents form clubs and have organized sports teams. They utilize Junior college summer courses when their children reach the junior level. I had a conversation with a black man that belonged to an organization with my daughter. He said “I home school my children because I expect them to learn. When I send them to public school they don’t expect them to learn because when they walk in the door they are dumb little n----- kids. It’s really about being determined that your children are educated.
When some people paint their tractor, they paint right over the grease. They should not be considered as serious refurbishers. Simply keeping your children out of public schools doesn’t make you a home schooler. Home schooling means the parents accept the responsibility of educating their children rather than turning them over to the Government. They shop for books, videos, and programs like we shop for tractor parts. They use any and every means to educate their children, academically and socially They work with other parents form clubs and have organized sports teams. They utilize Junior college summer courses when their children reach the junior level. I had a conversation with a black man that belonged to an organization with my daughter. He said “I home school my children because I expect them to learn. When I send them to public school they don’t expect them to learn because when they walk in the door they are dumb little n----- kids. It’s really about being determined that your children are educated.
hoof print
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Matt. 5:14-16: "Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hid. Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven."
Sure we all worry about our kids in school...but, I do not see anything in the scripture that says let your child be a light in your house...
Sure we all worry about our kids in school...but, I do not see anything in the scripture that says let your child be a light in your house...
Around here the home schooled kids outperform the government educated kids academically and are well mannered and very courteous and polite, much moresoe then some at the government schools Ive observed. Ive never in my life heard that called child abuse before????? And yes some indeed do go on to become doctors and dentists.
God Bless Tom and all of you and Merry CHRISTmas, remember, Jesus is the reason for the season
John T
God Bless Tom and all of you and Merry CHRISTmas, remember, Jesus is the reason for the season
John T
Bob Huntress
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I just want to be clear. While I strongly believe the evidence supports my assertion that Homeschool is better, and public school is a failure, I am not personally attacking any of you. Like my friends that drive Dodge trucks or vote for nnalert, I don't want you to think that I don't like public school supporters, just because I disagree with them. If you support public schools, that's your option. I disagree with you, and will shake my head in disbelief when you tell me why you disapprove of homeschool, but that isn't a problem for my friends that voted for external_link. Who knows, but that it will only take three years for you to see that I was right about this, also.
Stephen Newell
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Is it child abuse to keep your kids away from drugs, gangs and atheists? The public schools where I live are child abuse. We have been using Pensacola Christian Academy for the last ten years since our town private school closed.
Jim, properly done Home Schooling can leave a lot of extra time if the kids are motivated, to go and interact with the world...They can go to museums, church, special events, volunteer, etc, etc..and get all sorts of social skills. Many home school students have mini businesses going by the time they are in high school.
Compare that to the reality TV mindset of the average public school student.....which would you want your grandkids to be exposed to?
Improperly done, homeschool can be bad...the parents have to be qualified and dedicated to educating their kids too. Simply pulling the kids out of school to avoid the sorts of things taught you don't agree with, then telling the kids to go do their work on the computer instead can lead to really bad results too. From what I have seen, most states have better oversight of the homeschooler than they do of an average public school student, so the poor home teachers get canned and the kids go back to public school.
Of course not all public schools are bad..there are excellent ones out there..but if your town has one of the bad ones, ya either gotta move or private school or home school.
Compare that to the reality TV mindset of the average public school student.....which would you want your grandkids to be exposed to?
Improperly done, homeschool can be bad...the parents have to be qualified and dedicated to educating their kids too. Simply pulling the kids out of school to avoid the sorts of things taught you don't agree with, then telling the kids to go do their work on the computer instead can lead to really bad results too. From what I have seen, most states have better oversight of the homeschooler than they do of an average public school student, so the poor home teachers get canned and the kids go back to public school.
Of course not all public schools are bad..there are excellent ones out there..but if your town has one of the bad ones, ya either gotta move or private school or home school.
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