Hp requirement for 16' cultipacker

smalltimer · Dec 12, 2011

Looking at brillions website looking at a 16 foot cultipacker the horsepower requirement says it needs 60 hp. I was looking at one to go behind my 12-14 ft disc to level the field when disking stalks and also the spring tillage. I use a 4020 thats not wore out completely but not new either. What do you guys think can she handle the disc and packer at the same time?

thanks

Smalltimer

davediehl@hotmail.com · Dec 12, 2011

Should work without a problem. We pull a 12 foot disk and packer on 80 horses. Plenty to spare.

Tx Jim · Dec 13, 2011

(quoted from post at 22:58:39 12/12/11) Looking at brillions website looking at a 16 foot cultipacker the horsepower requirement says it needs 60 hp. Smalltimer

Minimum of 60 HP sounds high to just to pull a cultipacker to me.

Anonymous-0 · Dec 13, 2011

(quoted from post at 04:35:31 12/13/11)

(quoted from post at 22:58:39 12/12/11) Looking at brillions website looking at a 16 foot cultipacker the horsepower requirement says it needs 60 hp. Smalltimer

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Minimum of 60 HP sounds high to just to pull a cultipacker to me.

If they said 30, they'd be buying some blew up tractors I guess.... Manual for my baler says minimum 18 hp but I've seen a 12hp run one....... They probably add a generous percentage to keep them out of court.....

VADAVE · Dec 13, 2011

Look for a smaller packer. You want a packer that's almost the same size as the disc. 4020 will pull that.
I pull a 13 foot disc with a 12 foot rolling harrow with a 1855 Oliver, does fine. 1855 and 4020 are same size tractor.

the tractor vet · Dec 13, 2011

If ya got duals on the tractor as this makes a world of difference , but myself i would be looking for a 13-14 footer and stay away from crow foot ones .

Traditional Farmer · Dec 13, 2011

You might be surprised how hard a cultipacker can pull in loose ground especially if its a tandem packer

Leroy · Dec 13, 2011

Sounds not like a cultipacker but a cultimulcher that has the teeth and a lot of folks confuse the 2 different implements. Just a 16' single packer you could pull with 20 horse or less, double packer 30 horse but you put teeth in and then you would be up to that 60 horse figure.

DeltaRed · Dec 13, 2011

My 16' IH cultimulcher works the snot out of a 96 horse turbo 706 with the teeth down the first pass after plowing.

Leroy · Dec 13, 2011

I don't dought that, but for minimum power they would not figure full set and hard dirt. Maby half set and preveious worked. Just the single roller tho would not take that power and a cultimulcher even with the teeth up and not working will take more power than a double roller packer using the same wheels due to the extra frame weight.

Leroy · Dec 13, 2011

I think we need to clarify it as to if he is actually looking at a cultipacker or a cultimulcher that I think he is looking at. A 16' single roller cultipacker a Farmall Cub could pull, double roller it would take like a Farmall H to do the job, now for a cultimulcher if you were just scratching the ground in previous worked soil them a minumem of the 60 horse power for that size but set deep and hard ground then way more. Now I don't think they made over a 10' or 12' in a single or double roller cultipacker. If you wanted wider they made pups in 3', 4', 5' and even 6' sizes that you hooked to each side of the main cultipacker and for a 16' you would start with a 10' and add a 3' pup to each side. For a 14' you would go with an 8' and 2 of the 3' pups an so on. So I think he is actually talking about a cultimulcher and not a cultipacker, two entirely different machines tho both contain some of the same parts.

Fordfarmer · Dec 13, 2011

I just looked at the website. He's talking about a cultipacker, NOT a cultimulcher. And Brillion makes them in 5' to 46' sizes.

Leroy · Dec 13, 2011

Did not think they still existed since the 60's. and at that time it was the sizes I was thinking about. When you get old (68)you do not keep up with things like that.

massey333 · Dec 13, 2011

What does age have to do with it if you are still active farming?There are still a lot of 70+and 80+ farmers out there farming 1000+acre spreads.

Scott 730 · Dec 13, 2011

(quoted from post at 08:23:18 12/13/11) and stay away from crow foot ones .

Could you explain your reasoning please? The only reason I know of to not use a crow foot is if you have rocks. They work terrific in sandy ground.

Leroy · Dec 14, 2011

Been retired from farming a few years and at most ever was about 300 acres and biggest tractor was a Ford 5000 and widest implement was a 13' disk or field cultivator and had fields as small as 1/2 acre with largest spot devided in 3 fields and was 33 acres so no use for the large equipment. Untill we quite dairy the largest tractor was a John deere A.

Leroy · Dec 14, 2011

Very good on clay ground as well, will not crust over as bad.

Leroy · Dec 14, 2011

Very few farms like that around, average is between 300 and 400 acres and largest cultimulcher I have ever seen was I think an 18', most were down in 12' or less size. Don't think I have seen a new cultimulcher in the last 15 years and cultipackers not a new one since 1960. The few with that large an operation are in 40's to 50's.

Grant boyIN1985 · Dec 14, 2011

No I'm not talking about a mulcher its a packer or on brillions site its called a pulveriser single row of wheels or sprockets. Also the one I have seen at a farm equipment dealer online was not one with pups just 16' wide all in one straight shot.

Thanks

Smalltimer

Leroy · Dec 15, 2011

With that as far as power you would never know it was back there, your problem would be the overhang, if your disk is 12' then you want one that only has a rolling width of 12', if it is 14' then only a rolling width of 14'. You do not want a packer with a rolling width of more than the cutting width of the implement you are pulling it behind, especially if you have fences or anything else along the side of your field or even if your field is next to a neighbor's field as he may not appreciate your packer comming over into his crop while you are working your ground.

Grant boyIN1985 · Dec 15, 2011

What size would you shoot for? the front of the disc measures about 12 foot six inches and the back is between 14 foot to 15 foot without the furrow fillers. Brillion only makes 12' 14' and 16' models. I did have a 12' john deere packer but it caused ridges and uneven places where the packer pressed it down and then where the packer didn't touch.

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