Wind Turbines

Les Bales

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In our county they want to build wind turbines and I was just wondering if any one on here lives in a wind farm or near one and what the overall perspective there is about them and their affects on the community and neighbors.
 
There was a long thread about this a few weeks ago. Search might find it. I think the conclusion for most part was if you are on the side that is getting money from them, good. Otherwise most folks thought they are a big waste of money.
 
(quoted from post at 15:00:28 12/06/11) In our county they want to build wind turbines and I was just wondering if any one on here lives in a wind farm or near one and what the overall perspective there is about them and their affects on the community and neighbors.
he Kennedys didn't want them!
 
They are only cost effective due to tax breaks and subsidies from We the Taxpayers. If you live within a mile of them they will offer to compensate you for the noise they don't make. But then you can't so them when the noise they don't make affects your quality of life. Don't worry though I have it on good authority that your property value will go up if you live near them. I'm sure all the money they are going to pay the county town and school will drastically lower your tax bill. The shadow flicker of the sun setting behind the turning blades will only bother you a few times a year.

If you have heard about the project it is already too late to stop it!

Vote out everyone on your town board AND planning board NOW, NOW, NOW,

Vote in people who are confirmed to be against it NOW, NOW, NOW

Get laws passed that require projects of this type to be put up for public refenedum! NOW, NOW, NOW!

Ask everyone the town and Wind farm company invites to a meeting how close their million dollar house is to a wind farm!


Every consultant they hire to tell you how inobtrusive, quiet, and an asset to the community is already in the pockets of the wind energy industry.

The farm they are putting on the southern/Western ridge of my valley has been approved despite the publics oppostition. Everyone who was on the planning board and town board who voted for it was defeated in the last election, but it is too late for us. Save your own town. Tell the green weenies if they like it so much they are welcome to purchase my land and live up close and personal with one.

Someone HAD to go an mention a wind farm didn't they!
 
(quoted from post at 12:32:06 12/06/11) They are only cost effective due to tax breaks and subsidies from We the Taxpayers. If you live within a mile of them they will offer to compensate you for the noise they don't make. But then you can't so them when the noise they don't make affects your quality of life. Don't worry though I have it on good authority that your property value will go up if you live near them. I'm sure all the money they are going to pay the county town and school will drastically lower your tax bill. The shadow flicker of the sun setting behind the turning blades will only bother you a few times a year.

If you have heard about the project it is already too late to stop it!

Vote out everyone on your town board AND planning board NOW, NOW, NOW,

Vote in people who are confirmed to be against it NOW, NOW, NOW

Get laws passed that require projects of this type to be put up for public refenedum! NOW, NOW, NOW!

Ask everyone the town and Wind farm company invites to a meeting how close their million dollar house is to a wind farm!


Every consultant they hire to tell you how inobtrusive, quiet, and an asset to the community is already in the pockets of the wind energy industry.

The farm they are putting on the southern/Western ridge of my valley has been approved despite the publics oppostition. Everyone who was on the planning board and town board who voted for it was defeated in the last election, but it is too late for us. Save your own town. Tell the green weenies if they like it so much they are welcome to purchase my land and live up close and personal with one.

Someone HAD to go an mention a wind farm didn't they!

Gee gald to see you don't have a problem with em..... :roll:

Rick
 
(quoted from post at 12:32:06 12/06/11) They are only cost effective due to tax breaks and subsidies from We the Taxpayers. If you live within a mile of them they will offer to compensate you for the noise they don't make. But then you can't so them when the noise they don't make affects your quality of life. Don't worry though I have it on good authority that your property value will go up if you live near them. I'm sure all the money they are going to pay the county town and school will drastically lower your tax bill. The shadow flicker of the sun setting behind the turning blades will only bother you a few times a year.

If you have heard about the project it is already too late to stop it!

Vote out everyone on your town board AND planning board NOW, NOW, NOW,

Vote in people who are confirmed to be against it NOW, NOW, NOW

Get laws passed that require projects of this type to be put up for public refenedum! NOW, NOW, NOW!

Ask everyone the town and Wind farm company invites to a meeting how close their million dollar house is to a wind farm!


Every consultant they hire to tell you how inobtrusive, quiet, and an asset to the community is already in the pockets of the wind energy industry.

The farm they are putting on the southern/Western ridge of my valley has been approved despite the publics oppostition. Everyone who was on the planning board and town board who voted for it was defeated in the last election, but it is too late for us. Save your own town. Tell the green weenies if they like it so much they are welcome to purchase my land and live up close and personal with one.

Someone HAD to go an mention a wind farm didn't they!

So rhoustan, how do you REALLY feel about them? Never mind. 99.9% of us who actually live out where those ugly things might go up DO agree with you.
 
Sort of pretty when all the red lights go on and off at the same time on top of the towers. For miles and miles of flashing lights. Yes, you hear them spinning. When they burn stay away cause of all the falling junk. Wait and see how long they turn with no helping cash to run?
 
Until they do like Michigan and drastically reduce the personal property tax. Our county is losing about a half of a million annually.
 
Sure would like a couple on my farm. Would be the best income I ever got. And except for the little acreage they use wouldn't cost me anything.
 
We live 4 miles away from them.There are 12 of them.Cant hear them but they sure wreck the veiw.Oh yea by the way we dont even get any juice from them and our electric bills are higher than ever.
 
There is a good bit of them that you can see from I-65 as you drive north towards chicago, IL.

Everytime I've driven that way it seems like at least half of them are broken because in a random pattern some are turning and most aren't.

I bet it costs a fortune to get up there and work on those turbines.

I've never heard anybody say that it is a bad idea to make power out of wind, but that is theory.

The application is that they cost a great deal of money, are unreliable, are ugly, make noise, damage birds and drop property values anywhere near them.
 
I applied to the powers-in-charge for 320 acres of the silly things a year ago.

Not one peep back. :>(

Allan
 
I don't have any in my "backyard" as it were, but I sure do like to take a two hour drive to see the giant wind farm near Le Roy, MN. It's so big that sometimes it looks like a thunderstorm is coming when the NEXRAD radar samples the top of the blades.

If I didn't live in a hole, I would like to have some installed on my farm. Extra income and the reduced property value (i.e. reduced taxes) would be icing on the cake :)
 
Allan, I don't have a chance for them. My farm is right in the flyway of the airbase runway. I think they have a maximum I can go in the air. They put two south of town quite a few years ago. Hilly, rocky farm land. At $5000 each a year he never had it so good. Don't know what they paid in same area for 70 some in the last couple years.
 
Sorry there is no evidence that a windfarm reduces the value of your property. "in fact our studies show that the property values near a wind farm actually increased" Boy that got laughs at our town meetings.
 
I don't think the ones not running are broke. They don't always run allof them. I think it depends on how much electricity they can sell. We had one in this area that had a blade break in half during a bad wind last sprin and it hung there until ths fall before they got it fixed.
 
there are 10 new ones just above my property here in Berkshire County, Ma> construction started about 3 years ago and they came online this year. Since the construction started the local deer population has disappeared. The turkeys have vanished also. There is a low level hum from them that I can hear but you get use to it. I am in favor of them as it will lower our dependance on oil
The visual impact is strong but I like it. Just hope the wildlife gets use to them and comes back.
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when all u that are so against the windmills start paying the taxes on my property u should shut your mouths as to what i choose to do with or on it if u dont like what i do move theres plenty of houses for sale these days thank you
 
They are not cost effective (without Government assistance) today but may be in 20 or so years. Just another Government project now.
No easy way around our energy problems.
 
I like how this stuff works. Can't have wind turbines cuz they make noise and they're "ugly", can't have oil wells cuz they pollute and destroy the view if they're off shore. Can't have coal cuz it pollutes and spoils the view. Can't have fracking cuz it might hurt the water and spoils the view. Can't have pipelines cuz they spoil the view and someone might get a job. Can't have nukes, God no!, because of Chernobyl and the Jane Fonda movie and they spoil the view. Can't have solar collectors in the desert because they cool the desert. Can;t have tidal gens or biomass because...well, you just can't, and they spoil the view.

Tell me folks, when it's 20 below and you're scrunched up in a cold, dark corner of your cold, dark condo just how much is that freakin' view gonna matter?
 
There are 13 wind turbines about 11 miles east of me. There is a wind turbine farm starting to be built about 13 miles to the northwest of me in Noxen, PA. It is supposed to be the largest one in Penna. 88 turbines. The Mtn around Noxen is known for it's rattle snakes and I am told that the dens had to be located, documented and protected before work started.

Ed The The Farmer might have more info.

Someday the wind farms will be profitable, IMHO!
 
We have them out the *** here in Texas, I was told by a guy that clears the land where they plan on erecting them that they pay the land owner $3,400 each quarter as long as they're online.. That said, there are 14,000 of them already abandoned and more are added to the list real often and left for the farmers and ranchers to deal with'em..
 
There are 300 of them in our wind farm and 1 of them is on our farm, Cash rent for crop land is around $300 an acre right now, Windmill rent is $3500 an acre. 2 acres for turbine and driveway. They do make some noise, kind of a whoosh sound. Don't even notice anymore, Been living by the Union Pacific, or Burlington Northern all my life. Morons in town are getting them silenced (maybe it will thin a few of them out). The turbines are much quieter and easier to get used to than the trains. All the power is sold on the grid to Chicago mostly.

Lots of hard working folks got jobs building these things, some locals got good jobs maintaining them.

MIGHT BE THE ONLY GOVERNMENT PROGRAM THAT ACTUALLY CREATED JOBS

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With the turbines I"ve seen in MN, the ones not turning are slowly unwinding. They bring electricity down to the ground via cables, rather than a collector ring. The computer lets the blades follow the wind for 4 turns of those cables, then shuts it down and slowly unwinds them. Watch for a while and you"ll see the unit is slowly turning. In any groups of turbines you"ll likely see some blades spinning and some not.
 
kinda like the objection to power lines and poles they are every thing but acceptable, until the lights go out for about a week then it wouldn't matter if a pole was set on the front door step in order to get back service, until about 2 day's then the complaints would start again,it would do some a lot of good to be without, especially those raised on pavement and sidewalks that know so much about how the environment works and are the ones setting alot of these frivolous regulations,closest they ever came to the environment was the front lawn if they even had one yet they are authorities on how it all works.
 
They have been trying to shove these things down our throats here for over 2 years. Currently one of the townships along with anti-wind groups are taking this issue to an appeals court to stop them. Would you want to live next to a 300+ foot wind turbine for the next 50 years while some millionaire out of state, or worse yet out of country reaps the rewards?? I sure don't want you. Here's s link for you to see:

www.goodhuewindtruth.com

A movie I would recommend you see if your wanting to know the truth behind industrial wind is the movie Windfall. That movie about hits it in the head on whats happening here. Tax grant 1603 is due to expire this month, and alot of people locally are hoping it don't get renewed.
 
Farmers around here in cIllinois set outside during the summer counting them turn - Bout a nichel in thier bank account for every revolution! Plus some bonuses because they can't aerial spray in some places.

Guess if they go bad, you could always cuttem up and sell them for scrap - just like firewood.
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To be more against liberals than I one would have to have multiple wives, slaves and a well armed compound in the Rockies. That said however, I am very impressed with the potential for wind energy. I believe that for home electrical needs wind has the potential to greatly reduce load on the national grid. In rural areas where a homeowners have space to errect a windmill to a minimum hieght of 100', wind could replace their use of grid elecricity. By wiring a small home to accomodate lower voltage circuits, such as 12v & 24v aux circuits, for lighting and smaller loads, one could maximize the value of wind. A problem arises when we try to parallel wind generated electricity to the national grid, however. No single turbine generates enough power to affect the power needs of the grid. Wind farms are counter productive, but, once people start to view wind power as unattached sources of electricity, we will start to really develop some great power from wind.
 
Over 100 of them in Gratiot county just west of Saginaw MI. Still assembling some. Farmers are paid well. Only ones 6itchin are the ones that don't have any. Same as oil wells , railroad right of ways and freeway right of ways. They aren't near as unsightly as power lines , they don't stink near as much as oil wells and aren't near as noisy as trains. Some would 6itch if they were hung with a silk rope.
 
I hear ye, I saw a picture of someone bring one down with dynamite, or thats what it liked like. I believe a person could make a bundle scraping them..
 
I smile all the way to the bank to cash my check. Right now, I don't have one on my property. They are just paying me $1000 per year for the right to put one up maybe someday. Word from the company was if they put one up it pays $5000 per year starting. Contract says they have to clear the site to condition it was before if they discontinue them. Contract is for 20 years by the way.
 

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