DOT inspection/DOT number on farm trucks ?????

mike1972chev · Sep 26, 2011

Need help,

If I have a single axle dump truck we use on the farm(farm plated also) 33,000GVW,Does it have to be D.O.T. inspected or not?Is the trailer we pull the same way????

Surely I do not need a U S DOT number,do I?????

ILLEFTY · Sep 26, 2011

Not with farm plates

paul · Sep 26, 2011

First off, depends n what state you are in, and you didn't give that, so no one can help much. Lord help you if you are in Illinois from what I hear....

Here in MN, the cutoff is 26,000# - up to that and you are a farm truck with no inspections or extra paperwork. Over that and you are a DOT farm truck, need inspection. As to getting a number and having it on the side, I get 5 different opnions on that - some never have and gross 50,000#, others at 33,000 have numbers on them.

Technically if you haul for others, you need something starting at #10,000 - depends on how your state sees things.

--->Paul

oldtanker · Sep 26, 2011

Only need US Dot if yer crossing state lines on commercial don't know fer sure but I think you do with farm trucks too. You can check by getting on your state web site for the DOT there and also the US DOT web site. I do know that most states consider you hauling for someone else makes you a commercial carrier and you cannot have farm tags.

Rick

wijim · Sep 26, 2011

I have a small dump truck with 16000 lb farm plates was pulled over and inspected I was wrighten up for no DOT number. Thats in wisconsin

wisbaker · Sep 26, 2011

Depends on the state, if you're crossing state lines, or more than 150 air miles from your home terminal and are for hire (hauling product other than your own) One company I worked got a ticket for no DOT census numbers or DOT physical for the driver of a Ford F-350.

Owen Aaland · Sep 26, 2011

Starting August 1, 2011 Minnesota requires the DOT number to be on the outside of the vehicle. All vehicle with a gross manufacturing weight rating of 10,000 lbs or more need a DOT unless they are farm use or not used in commerce. If you cross state lines the DOT number must also be on farm trucks. Note that the DOT regulations start at 10,000 lbs while intrastate commercial vehicles start at 26,000 lbs so you may need the DOT number even if you do not need an inspection.

mkirsch · Sep 26, 2011

Whoever said to look at their state's website needs their head examined. I did and I'm more confused now than ever!

If you talk to two DOT officers, you get FOUR different answers...

john in la · Sep 26, 2011

You did not give us enough info to answer the question.
Interstate or Intrastate use
How far from the farm will you travel in miles.
Will you only haul your own stuff related to the farm.
What state do you live in.

ihredo4 · Sep 26, 2011

If you look up 390.3f3 you will find the exemptions to the CDL requirements in the FMCSA rule book. I collect tractors, travel coast to coast, have no CDL due to diabetes, and combination is licensed to 36k. No log book, No health card, no scales, and no limit to driving hours. However they will take my rig apart to find a violation during an inspection. Feds tell me based on the fact I collect the iron, own my truck and trailer and do not accept any income during trips I AM LEGAL.

nickg · Sep 26, 2011

well not sure where your from but in IN farmers are not exempt from having an annual dot inspection sticker and most also have a current health card. You do not have to have DOT numbers on your farm plated truck. I know this all to well because one of the guys I farm with got three tickets last year. One for no health card one for not having an annual inspection on the truck and another for no annual inspection sticker on the trailor.

oldtanker · Sep 26, 2011

(quoted from post at 13:16:07 09/26/11) Whoever said to look at their state's website needs their head examined. I did and I'm more confused now than ever!

If you talk to two DOT officers, you get FOUR different answers...

LOL I read the ones for MN and US Dot. I'm not confused!

Rick

Anonymous-0 · Sep 26, 2011

there are sure goofs on this site,
common sense would help you if you can give a State.

Anonymous-0 · Sep 26, 2011

Yep...and you're restricted to 150 miles of the farm address if you do not have a cdl. Ran the farm semi almost ten years in Indiana, was never pulled over or inspected. Was overweight once 81k on the scales at the elevator. Too much wet corn.

mike1972chev · Sep 26, 2011

I am in Indiana and WILL NOT be hauling for anyone other than Myself/family farm equipment.I dont ever see going outside 150 miles of my own place!

I have a current class B CDL and physical,but dont think I even need it?

mike1972chev · Sep 26, 2011

I am in indiana and haul for me! Yes,stuff for just here!

I do have a Class B CDL with physical.

Do I need Inspected ???

Do I need DOT number?

mike1972chev · Sep 26, 2011

I am in Indiana

NCWayne · Sep 26, 2011

Best advice anyone can give is to look at your states DOT regs and follow them. Carry a copy of them with you because you never know when you'll need to show them to a DOT cop if you get stopped by one that doesn't know his head from a hole in the ground...... Do this and you should be OK because calling will do nothing but get you different answers from everyone you talk to and leave you more confused than you already are. If your stat is like NC, and you absolutely want to talk to someone in the DOT, find out who the 'safety officer' is and talk to him. The one I talked to here in NC is the only individual that gave me his full name and told me flat out that if anyone hasseled me over what he told me to tell them to give him an immediate call and he would set them straight on the spot.

Anonymous-0 · Sep 26, 2011

I too live in Indiana,This is what Ive been told by the place that inspects my truck.
Any combination {truck AND trailer}or truck only that has a declared gross vehicle weight {GVW} of 0ver 10,ooo lbs. must be inspected annually.CDL is not required if under 26,000lbs. For example; a standard full size pickup alone with 7000 plates on it is ok.The same truck with a trailer plated at 3000 lbs together is still legal.But put a trailer on that truck that has OVER 3000 lb plates Now puts you over the 10000lb limit Now you need inspections on both truck and trailer! OR any truck with over 10000 plates ,needs inpection.This is wether its farm use or not.On any road in Indiana,if its 1 mile from home or 200 mile. Indiana is one of the strictest states on this law.You better have a health card cause its the 1st thing DOT will ask for.

JMOR · Sep 26, 2011

sorry if I sound harsh, but if you wanted a bucket load of opinions, you came to the right place (plentiful, even if not all applicable).........if you wanted facts, go to Indiana DOT.....probably on their web site & with a quicker "real" answer.

nickg · Sep 26, 2011

Well mike if your in Indiana as I am.youll have to have an annual dot inspection sticker on vehicle and trailor.Even tho its a dump truck.If you have your cdl b you already have your health card so your good on that.Even if your stayin within your 150 mile radius. No you do not have to have a cdl on farm plates. You dont have to run DOT numbers unless you want to. I dont on any of my trucks. We dont even have our names on the side either which is also your choice for now. Like I said in my earlier post,last fall one of the guys I farm withs trucks got pulled over by our lovely dot and got three tickets. Two were for no annual inspection and one for no health card. Know this much for a fact. I have my class A so already have my health card too and made sure I got all my trucks up to date on there inspections so I dont get nailed.

David G · Sep 26, 2011

It confuses me also.

Iowa implemented business plates this year. I have a company owned truck (F250 super duty). I pull a 14000 pound trailer for farm use. My partner has a truck registered to the farm, with business plates, but we both pull trailers. I do not have a clue what rule my business truck falls under with the farm trailers.

Jim Plunkett · Sep 26, 2011

Yes you do

David G · Sep 26, 2011

Is it national or state by state?

Anonymous-0 · Sep 26, 2011

If your plated 26,000 GVW and over you need a CDL. You need a CDL for 26,000 GVW and under if truck has air brakes. You can get a CDL with diabetes as long as your not on the needle. For the weight your declaring you have to have DOT inspection every year. You haven't one of the states that require all trucks over scales even pickups.

danofarming · Sep 26, 2011

NO you do not. Put Not For Hire on the door. You only have to have DOT to Haul for hire.

john in la · Sep 27, 2011

Guidelines for Indiana US DOT Number and Marking Requirements
Who Must Have a US DOT Number?
If you operate a commercial motor vehicle transporting property or passengers interstate and/or intrastate and
have a GVWR or gross combined vehicle weight of 10,001 lbs. or more; you use the vehicle to transport more
than 9 passengers (including the driver); or you use the vehicle to transport placardable amounts of hazardous
materials, you must mark your vehicle with a US DOT Number. You will receive evidence of your registration
via the registration receipt.
Exemption: If you operate a farm-plated vehicle and do not leave Indiana, you do not need a US DOT number.

Exempt Vehicles
A number of vehicles are exempt from the Indiana Motor Carrier Fuel Tax and are not required to display fueltax
compliance decals and license cards if they travel only in Indiana.
5. Vehicles registered by the Indiana Bureau of Motor Vehicles as farm trucks, farm trailers or farm semi
trailers and tractors, or under a similar law of another state

I did not see any thing about the inspection sticker
right from in.gov

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