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luke shupp

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i have a farmall a that i am currently restoring. but the one piston sleeve is cracked and stuck. i am only 15 so i dont have $500 to buy a sleeve remover so does anyone know any ways to get them out that dont require a ton of work.
 
You can always try running a welding bead around the inside. Go slow, a little bit at a time, so you don`t heat the block up too much. Run several beads all the way around the inside circumference (not over the crack) and it should shrink the liner enough to break it free.

Josh
 
If it is cracked up and own, that might be to your advantage! I bet it won't put up much of a fight. A David P in the massey forum sent my post pics of a home made puller he inveted, so yes, like the guys say, put the words 'sleeve puller' on forum search, see what comes up. I have this subject yesterday on here, and on the MF about 3 or 4 weeks ago.
 
i tryed to pull it up with my engine hoist and that didnt work. so i got kubota out and used the crane arm i have for the three piont and hooked that up and all that did was lift the whole front end up and the sleeve didnt budge so its really stuck.
 
You'll never get it out, trying to use the tractor's weight, as what you are pulling against! You need to rig up a puller, of some sort, or weld a bead inside the sleeve, as others have said. My suggestion, would be to google sleeve puller, and see what one looks like, then try to make something similar.
 
ya i made a plate i have a metal lathe. the plate sits in the bottom edge of the sleeve and then i took 1/2 inch threaded rod and put a not under the plate and took an 1/4 inch solid steel bar and drilled a hole and put a nut on the rod then the plate and then another nut and wrapped a chain around it and hooked it to the crane arm. thats how i did it.
 
You do have the rod disconnected from the crank don't you? Make sure the rod is not contacting the bottom of the block and keeping things from moving.

You didn't say how you were able to attach to the sleeve to lift the tractor. Weld something to the top of the sleeve? You are working with wet sleeves so welding a bead in the sleeve is not going to do much toward getting the sleeve out. If you can lift the tractor about an inch and then get underneath and use a bar to hit against the bottom of the sleeve or, if you do not plan on reusing the piston, the piston pin bosses. It usually doesn't take too much to get them to move. Once it moves a little it should slide right out the rest of the way. If you are going to reuse the piston you can break the sleeve away from it once they are out of the block.
 
Use a piece of 2 X 2 oak or hard maple and drive the old sleeve out. They're not pressed into the block. Be sure to clean that area really well where the old seal is installed. Clean out any rust or dirt in the block. Hal
 
If you have a metal lathe you are one step ahead of those who don't. Sounds like you have the bottom part of the sleeve puller made. Use a piece of 5/8 all thread. drill a hole in the center of the metal you turned on your lathe for the bottom of the sleeve.drill a hole in another piece of heavy metal for the top. use a nut for the bottom of the all thread. Make a couple pieces of heavy metal fot the top sides. Lay the other piece of metal with the hole over the side pieces, and put a nut on the all thread, and tighten the nut. This should pull the sleeve. Stan
 
I have a method I have never seen anyone else use. If I do not plan to reuse the sleeve or piston I put the piston and rings top side first down the bore and let the rings expand below the sleeve, Then I get a big old bar and hold against the top of the piston and strike the bar with a heavy hammer. When I worked for Allis Chalmers i never had a sleeve puller
 
Welding a bead will still help on a wet sleeve, you just need to run the bead in the portion of the liner that contacts the block. Heating with a torch can sometimes move it around enough to break it loose, no more than a dull red, but with the bead it will shrink and stay shrunk.

Good luck,
Josh
 
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