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hey i know this is a somewhat opinionated post, but which brand do you think is the most collected. and which brand do you think has the biggest collecting groups? my dad and i were talking about it. he seemed to think john deere had the most and i think oliver does.

my thinking was that the HPOCA, Oliver Gang and all the other oliver groups. plus i went to the oliver show in wooster and was very impressed.

my thoughts:
1. oliver
2. john deere
3. international
4. minneapolis moline
 
I think Deere, then IH then maybe oliver. HPOCA this year was TINY compared to the usual red power roundup
 
I think it is close between IH and JD. Ford has a good following but between the 10 year skip from the Fordson to the 9N and the 1000 series-up not being thought of much as collector items they fall well short of the others. AC interest has picked up in the last few years but they have alot of catching up to do.
 
I'd say :
1. IH. Plenty of H & M tractors and families that had them.
2. JD. Plenty of A & B tractors and families that had them.
3. Ford. Plenty of 8N & 9N tractors and families that had them. Ford seems to have the narrowest focus as you see very few thousand series tractors restored to go against the classics from the same era from other makes.
4. Oliver.
5. Minneapolis Moline.
6. Allis Chalmers. Might be more in the other parts in the US than I see here.
7. Massey Harris/ Ferguson/ MF
8. Cockshutt
9. Lanz, Leyland, other
I went to the Steam Pageant at Canandaigua, NY yesterday and took in the Masseys. Lots of nice restorations but was disappointed that there were no 333 or 444 tractors.
 
It has to be JD. Second by IHC, and as my dad put it "we are collecting the old JD's, we are still using all those M's and H's, when we stop working those and start collecting them there will be more Farmalls in collections". Third place has to belong to AC.
 
Scott, That's just what I was going to say about the thousand series and up Fords! They're still out there doing what they were originally bought for! :p
JMHO, Dave
 
That's a good ?. My guess is it varies drasticly form region to region. That might be a question YT would entertain poling.
 
Oliver is not #1. Go to some other shows. Some shows do well promoting certain brands as well. Go a little bit on how popular they were when they were in production.
 
We have featured every major brand more than once as their summer national show. Oliver and MM had very big features. Case was smaller but had more machinery. AC, IH and Cockshutt also had good representation with jd being the least impressive more than once!
 
Dang, I knew I forgot something and that was to rank Case. I would say between Chalmers and Massey. Sorry.
 
John Deere is #1. Farmall is #2. However, at least 5 times as many old Farmalls are working on farms around here compared to old John Deeres. My experience has been that at least 90% of collectible John Deeres are restored. 3rd place is hard, but my vote is for Allis Chalmers. The AC Gs are just so cool! Ford narrowly takes 4th in my book over Oliver, which is 5th. There are almost no Minneapolis Molines in the South.

SF
 
I'd file that under "other." I don't know how close you are to Canandaigua, NY but maybe I could count on you to bring a nice 333 to the next Massey event they have (presumably several years down the road. You should have plenty of time for a proper restoration.
 
International Harvester Farmall's and then John Deere's around Houston. Probably a regional thing. Last show I went to up in Iowa it was John Deere then IH.

I like the JD but have IH SC's,200,SH's,300 they are cheaper and easier to work on and parts are easy to find.

I pd $500 for a 53 Farmall Super H as the base for my 1st restoration. I originally wanted a JD A,B etc but they wanted $1500 -2000 for a tractor in similar/poor condition. JD parts seem to be more expensive and harder to find around here.
 
I don't want to hurt anyones feelings but, compared to JD, IHC, AC, Case, Oliver,and MM, Fords could not be considered real tractors untill Stieger painted its products blue and started selling them under the Ford badge. All kidding aside, they slipped my mind, you are right, like Farmalls they are still working, not being collected so much.
 
Just got back from Almelund tractor show.
As usual the brand with the fanciest machines and the most of them was the John Deeres.
Second was IH.
There were just a few Fords, a handful of Ollies and the usual sprinkling of oddballs and orphans.
Sheepdog, I think you are right about the Fords. Most of them today were sitll in their work clothes, mud on their tires - straight from the field to the show.
 
Most shows I've been to, the Red and green run a fairly close race. After them not really sure. I am with the others, there are certainly more old Farmalls earning their keep than old Deeres (atleast in my area).
 
kinda surprised by these posts. i know there are more people that collect the deeres, but as far as tractor colecting groups go i thought oliver was the biggest. i know the oliver heritage magazine is the best selling ag related magazine.

didnt really think about the fords. most of the old ford 8ns and old farmalls are still working though!!
 
I went to the Wooster show also. They had a nice turn out. Did the rain goof up the tractor pull ?

I think the largest majority of those Olivers were owned by 2 seperate people. And I also don't think many of them were originally sold in this area when NEW. Seemed like many showed up from out of the area for the show.

Wooster had an Oliver dealer,Allis dealer,Ford dealer IHC dealer and a John Deere dealer back in the day. And I am pretty sure that the John Deere dealer had the most coverage. Back in the day ( mid 1970's and later ) when I started collecting I could just drive around this area and see old JD's sitting all over. Now you won't cause I gathered most of them all up. Didn't see many other brands around like the Deere's.
 
[i:654c4848f0]"compared to JD, IHC, AC, Case, Oliver,and MM, Fords could not be considered real tractors untill Stieger painted its products blue and started selling them under the Ford badge"[/i:654c4848f0]

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JD then IH then Oliver, there's a lot of Fords out there but there not really collected, the brands don't like to go to the same show as there always fighting between eachother.
 
Here in SE York county PA, there are more IH's, then JD's, then everything else. The least would be Fergusons, of which I have one. MM's are fairly rare too.
 
Around here its Deere hands down as far as collections. Then IH. Olivers were never real popular in this neck of the woods. See very few of them. One of my neighbors has a nice collection of them though, otherwise I cant recall more than a dozen I know of.
 
That would be the FW series, Jerry - Big ones, articulated, built from '77 to '81 or thereabouts. FW20, FW30, FW40, and FW60. Only one I can remember right now is the 60... 335 h.p.
And the FW40 was only built for 2 years, IIRC.
 
JD by a wide margin. Then IH. Next would be a tie between Massey Harris/Ferguson/Massey Ferguson and Ford. Next would be AC, THEN Oliver
 
Pretty close between JD and IH around here, then AC. Probably more old Farmalls being used for odd jobs around the farm than anything else, but not really worked. Not surprizing, there was a lot more of them sold. Starting to see many new generation Deeres fixed up and repainted and put back to work on farms and some of the IH of the same age too.
 
(quoted from post at 06:04:39 08/15/11) Pretty close between JD and IH around here, then AC. Probably more old Farmalls being used for odd jobs around the farm than anything else, but not really worked. Not surprizing, there was a lot more of them sold. Starting to see many new generation Deeres fixed up and repainted and put back to work on farms and some of the IH of the same age too.
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Low budget is part of the key. Part of the reason that so many Farmalls and old Fords are still working tractors is that a lot of folks need a smaller (HP) tractor for od jobs on small acerage. Most of those people didn't want to spend any real money on a tractor so they went with those available that were cheaper. The collectors were driving up the price of the old Deers.


At the few general tractor shows that I have gone too.....toss up between Deer and IH followed by AC then Ollie and Case. I think the reason IH is getting to be a very close 2nd to JD is that a lot of people are showing is that there are a lot of 06, 66 and 26/56 tractors being restored today while most of the 20 series JD are still in the field and are more expensive to buy as a project......round these parts by about 3K.

Rick
 
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