interesting farm truck news article

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INCase

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• Jul 1, 2011

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Read this this morning. Already new most of the truck rules but DOT #'s on tractors and combines???

http://www.farmers-exchange.net/detailPage.aspx?articleID=10055
farmers exchange article on DOT/Farm trucks

 

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rustyfarmall

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• Jul 1, 2011

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Looks like a lot of double talk and built in loop holes. No way they can enforce any of it without first doubling or even tripling the number of enforcement officers, and since nearly ALL states are currently in a financial bind, I do not expect that to happen for a long, long time.

 

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toadady

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• Jul 1, 2011

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Published: Friday, July 1, 2011

Since the proposals have not been finalized, the U.S. Department of Transportation is accepting comments on them through the end of [u:2ad83c7a1e]June[/u:2ad83c7a1e]

see any problems with this?

 

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Ron A Anderson

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• Jul 1, 2011

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Does anybody else smell, (Job Creation)?

 

Steve in VA

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Natural Bridge Virginia

• Jul 1, 2011

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OK, DOT is seeking public comment. We"re the public; comment. The link includes discussion of the proposal and means to comment. It"s only 14 pages.

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/rulemakings/notices/Agriculture-Regulatory-Guidance.pdf

 

Welding man

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West Virginia

• Jul 1, 2011

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Somebody better get busy calling their congressmen and senators.The government is broke and they are trying everything they can to generate revenue. Just look at the tickets they can write for under age tractor drivers, no turn signals,obstructing traffic and the list goes on and on. So far the state that I live in ,farmers are exempt from DOT rules.

 

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Bob Bancroft

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Aurora NY

• Jul 1, 2011

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Very interesting.
Here in NY a staged adoption of the FMCSA rules started after 9-11. I had to get a DOT # for my tandem axle dump truck, and get a name on the side of it. It is registered with an AGR. license, which here means you can haul anything anywhere, as long as it's your OWN. In other words- not for hire. Farm(limited use) and commercial are two other possible registrations for the same truck! Confusing enough? The staged adoption worked its way down to and including 10000# vehicles. In other words- almost anything other than a light passenger vehicle. The good part is it didn't cost me anything.

 

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fixerupper

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• Jul 1, 2011

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Iowa's senator Chuck Grassley, who is a farmer, knows all about this proposed law. He's definitely on the farmer's side. I'm sure Farm Bureau is very aware of it too. Jim

 

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Anonymous-0

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• Jul 1, 2011

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here, if it has a motor and wheels, and will travel on a public road, it will have plates, pay taxes, be safety inspected, and be insured. exception on trailers is if they are farm wagons being pulled by a tractor (with farmer plates) being pulled less than 15mph. If you are a farmer, you pay less taxes and get a couple other breaks.

 

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Tony in Mass.

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• Jul 1, 2011

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I'm sure all states are what Bob B said about New York, stay in the state lines, do your own hauling, not for hire or rent, no problem. Read half way down the article, only half a sentence -but... ANYWHERE you cross a state line, you are under federal rules. that's what this is really all about. Motorcyles to machine guns, state lines is a whole new kettle of fish. This goes back too...let's see? What started the civil war? they were fed up 150 years ago, and they were old regs then.... I'm sure there were/are a few corn or cotton belt states that troopers don't care about people crossing the line with old junk for a better crop price, but now, things will change there....

 

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elmersooner

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• Jul 1, 2011

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love it when the idiots in these bureaus think they know what is good for you. In OK with a farm truck you don't have to wear a seatbelt. Damn near got tossed in jail over that one. I had to wait for the new deputies supervisor to come over to get resolved, all for crossing one side of the road to my other field. It will be fun when we need to have DOT up our $^& during harvest. anybody else tired of regulation after regulation just to use a lightbulb or what kinda gas you can get what you should eat and how much water you can have in your crapper tank...... It's like at work, people have to act like they are doing something to justify their job. Let's try this ---no more EPA, NLRB, Dept of ed, UN, ATF, Council of the arts etc...

 

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paul

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• Jul 1, 2011

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It ends up a mess of National laws, set up by State interpetation, and enforced by county sheriff in most cases..... So any answer you get won't make sense to the next set of people trying to tell you what to do.

Some states have already determined that if you haul grain from your farm to a nearby elevator, that elevator will likely sell some of it's grain across state lines; so, your farm truck needs to meet national DOT codes to the letter because _you_ are engaged in interstate trade, not local farming.

And, there we go.

The Feds are facing a shutdown next month because the 2 sides can't decide if they should tax us a little or a lot more; my state shut down today because the 2 sides couldn't decide if they should tax us 6% or 8% more than last year. So they can use the money to run more regulations on us and build us more bike trails. Makes life so much better to be poor but regulated more and have lots of bike trails...

Won't be happy until everyone is on welfare & living in assisted housing, and then maybe Germany can bail us out like they are bailing out Greece?

Grrrrrr.

Ok, ok, back to baling.

--->Paul

 

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Bob Bancroft

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Aurora NY

• Jul 1, 2011

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Pleased to see you didn't get your bailing and your baling mixed up.
Indeed- some here think that a "farm" plate means they can use a truck just like it's a wagon. Kill someone with money, get lawyers involved, and you'll find that the "farm" plated truck still needs to meet most regulations much like any other truck.

 

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David from Kansas

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• Jul 1, 2011

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But, oh, wait, there will be stimulus money coming from the feds to finance all the new "police state" employees.

 

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elmersooner

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• Jul 1, 2011

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agree with meeting regulations, but interstate commerce is a stretch unless crossing state lines. a farm tag does not give you the right to do as you please, but in OK you do not need seatbelt-I usually wear when on roads, but I was going from one field to the other and opening and closing gates on a very seldom travelled dirt road. the commerce clause is the current excuse for the government to grab as much power as they can.....external_linkcare depends on a abundant interpretation of the commerce clause. you just have to ask yourself when is enough going to be enough and vote accordingly.

 

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trucker 40

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• Jul 1, 2011

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Thats where you are wrong.States get broke and then they pull in trucks for all kinds of stuff.What makes you think they wont hire some more DOT officers?Also,the states probably asked the feds to do all this for some more excuses to write tickets.

 

showcrop

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• Jul 1, 2011

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I guess we better be keeping our log books up to date just in case we should get in a fender bender out on the road we can prove that we have been getting enough sleep.

 

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jim johnson

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• Jul 2, 2011

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The DOT regulations for farmers keep getting more strict because most over the road truckers are complying with their laws so well that the tickets are far and in between. It's a revenue thing. Remember a DOT officer has to prove his job is worth him having it every time he stops someone. If he can't find anything wrong and can't give a ticket for something his job will be gone. So the farmer is in the headlights big time and it's not just semis that they are going to be looking for.

Jim

 

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Bret4207

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• Jul 2, 2011

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I would strongly urge everyone to contact their Congresscritters ASAP and LOUDLY!

As Bob Bancroft noted, NYs Legislature adopted the FMCSA rules enmass, a more sure sign that the bunch of them are retards never has been seen. They opened the door to a lot of junk that was unneeded and unnecessary. It was fun trying to educate guys that had been driving for 50 years on the new rules!

Jim Johnson, I was a DOT cop for 6 years, It's not the tickets. The funds from that goes to the local courts and State the ticket is written in. I got the same credit for a clean inspection as for one with violations. This is probably related to external_linkcare and Interstate commerce far more than revenue.