O/T question for some who cans

old · Jun 30, 2011

Ok here is the deal. I have a person who wants some of my canned good but wants it to be done with out regular white sugar. Things like Jalapeno jelly. So could I use honey in place of the sugar so as to make it natural which is what she is after. She owns one of those types of stores so what things that she can sell that are organic.
Thanks

Coloken · Jun 30, 2011

It that is going to be sold, it opens up a whole new can of worms. Be care full. First thing here would be an inspected and approved kitchen, same as a restaurant.

NY 986 · Jun 30, 2011

I would stay away from it if it means cash is going to trade hands. Sounds like something to be liable for the first time somebody gets a stomach ache that they suspect is related to it.
Just tell her "you ain't tampering with the recipe" and that should be the end of it.

tjdub · Jun 30, 2011

You need the sugar. The way pectin and sugar molecules bond is how it turns into a jell, so sugar is a required ingredient. There are pectin products that are made for using less sugar so you can make tart preserves, but it's only like 25% less sugar than normal, so you still need a lot of sugar.

I think you can substitute honey, but it's going to be really expensive. Also, I have a feeling that you'll have to do quite a bit of experimenting to get the pectin honey ratio right. Honey just isn't as consistent as refined sugar. I just did some searching and found some recipes using <a href="http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food/1973-09-01/Jams-and-Jellies-Made-With-Honey.aspx">honey instead of sugar</a>.

I think you would be much better buying <a href="http://www.floridacrystals.com/Default.aspx">regular sugar that's certified USDA Organic</a>. Don't mention anything about pectin to the lady. I don't think you can even buy USDA Organic pectin.

gitrib · Jun 30, 2011

I am sure ther are regulations on how your product must be processed.You will have inspetors swarming over your place I manufactured cheese for several years. Had 3 or 4 ispectors every month. Check your state law.
gitrib

Tony in Mass. · Jun 30, 2011

Legal issues aside, yes, an organic refined, non refined, all sorts of 'brown sugar', search the net, see what you can buy in bulk bags, and keep the customers happy. Kinda yeah, like maple syrup in the northeast, the label has to have your name and address, and it ain't just to get new costumers...

Janicholson · Jun 30, 2011

Three ideas:
Certified Organic Sugar
Agave Sweetener -- Experiment, it is very sweet
And be very careful to follow the Local and state laws regarding canned goods marketing. Inspections may be required.
Jim

ILLEFTY · Jun 30, 2011

Old
The wife and I can sugar free jelly useing Splenda. You have to use Sure jell with it. Only problem with Splenda is that it has a self life. Need to eat use the jelly within a year or it starts to get bitter

oldtanker · Jun 30, 2011

What aint natural about cane suger????

Rick

old · Jun 30, 2011

Ya at this point I am not selling it to her but do sell things out of the garden and eggs but even the eggs there could be a small problem with

Janicholson · Jun 30, 2011

A garden stand or direct to consumer is probably different from Wholesale supply. Even today I would give a sheet of paper to a casual customer stating the need to wash and prepare according to best practices. Jim

36 Coupe · Jul 1, 2011

Say no.The minute you produce food fo some one else a bunch of laws land on you.

36 Coupe · Jul 2, 2011

A dairy in the town next to us sold raw milk in stores for a while.Someone got the trots,blamed the milk.Stores backed off.Same thing happened to a fellow who raised and processed rabbit meat in town.He had all the permits and required eouipment, sold meat in many stores.Woman complained her daughter got sick after eating rabbit meat.Business gone.I notice that large companies can put out bad hamburg or samonella eggs. Not much is done about it.Deep pockets mabey.Old better keep his jelly to himself.Canning is hard work,I cant see how any one could make money doing it on a small scale.

36 Coupe · Jul 2, 2011

One state requires a food processers license if you take the husks off sweet corn.I husk small ears and put them in a plastic bag.5 for a dollar.Gives people who are short on cash to have some fresh corn.Not sure if we will sell produce this year.Just give some to family and friends.Garden is half the size it used to be.

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