Cen-Pe-Co?

Anyone ever use Cen-Pe-Co lubes? Got a salesman coming around, kinda pricey IMO. Worth it?

The problem with lube and anything mechanical is, you can NEVER know if:

1. It's lasted forever BECAUSE of the lube.
2. It's lasted forever IN SPITE of the lube.
3. It's broke down and fallen apart BECAUSE of the lube.
4. It's broke down and fallen apart IN SPITE of the lube.

There is no way to know if the extra $$$ is really worth it, or if you'd get the exact same result from the cheapest blue bottle lube at Walmart.

It just takes too long to find out, and then you only have a data sample of one to base your conclusion on. Would 100 tractors used exactly the same way and maintained exactly the same way give you the same results? That's a question that can't be answered...

The only thing we really know is total lack of lubrication is always a bad thing, and regular replacement of the lubrication is USUALLY beneficial.

Cenpeco is a brand that we used to see around when I was a kid. Probably mostly because of convenience. The salesman would deliver the lube, saving the farmer precious time running to the dealer otherwise.

They sold us a case of snake oil "lead additive" back in the early 1990's when they completely eliminated leaded fuel even for farm tractors. After the 756's engine started rattling, we quit using it. There are 8-9 unopened bottles of it floating around somewhere in the shed.

After all that, IMHO, oil is oil. Walmart blue bottle oil meets the same standards as the expensive Cenpeco stuff, and the flim-flam from the salesman really doesn't have any merit.

How many engines have you blown up without it?

Gary

(quoted from post at 05:57:20 05/27/11) Anyone ever use Cen-Pe-Co lubes? Got a salesman coming around, kinda pricey IMO. Worth it?

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I ran the API yearly world engine oil audit program for a number of years
and when all is said done , they are all about the same. Some oils out perform others on lab tests, but changing your oil and filter on a regular basis is what it comes down to. Synthetics give you a little more oil life, but it becomes a cost effectiveness scenario.

We had an awful pushy salesman for it around here. I bought some diesel additive. As far as I know,it was a waste of money. The guy just wouldn't give up though. He'd come right out in the field where I was working. I think he got the message about the second or third time I drove right past him and left the field and him sitting right there.

Quite a few,If you ask thier salesmen!;^)

my one buddy used it , is it any better then Chevron ???? or any other ???? all i can tell ya is the local salesman must be making money selling it . since he is driving a fancy pick up and is spending money like a drunken sailor on it . Myself i don't like his attitude or his personality . Years back i ran a large oil field co. Had a lube salesman from L E come in and was telling me how bad the oil and grease we were using was and how much better his was at four times the cost. and he had this TEST machine to prove it . Well according to his machine yes what we were using was not as good , then i had him try some of my own grease and he was shocked at how much better mine was to his and he asked me HOW MUCH A TUBE mine was four five dollars a tube , NO mine cost me 85 cents a tube . Myself i was using OILIZUM (sp) by far the best that i have ever used . Uses to be a guy that was the dist. for them and most of the owner operators around here used it in there trucks .

I'll ask my old Case LA if she ever used it. then we can get a real down to earth evaluation on the best grease.
Walt

(quoted from post at 06:10:33 05/27/11) How many engines have you blown up without it?

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Zero.

In fact, that engine never blew up. We ran it for years with a rattle in the #1 cylinder. Finally put a diesel engine in the tractor.

None of the other gas tractors ever exhibited any changes in behavior with or without the snake oil in the tank.

In fact the only problem we had with the unleaded gas was spark plug fouling. After they started putting ethanol in the gas, that pretty much went away.

actually you can use the over the road trucking industry to tell about oils... although not the same as tractors, they drive around the clock, every day and do 500,000 miles a year in some cases...

and they prove.........

you can get up to a million miles between overhauls...

using any one of serveral heavy duty oils and doing proper oil changes every 10,000 miles on the heavy duty diesels...

but remember tractors can be run much harder plowing constantly and longer or tractors can be run doing trivial tasks like pulling wagons or spraying jobs...

bottom line.. use a good heavy duty oil, change it on time and you dont need all the other crapola...

there are too many examples and tests in the hd trucking industry and real world, verafible results to argue with. the rest is snake oil..

salesmen are right up there with politicians, they tell you what they want you to hear. skip around the truth with more mumbo jumbo and never give you a real fact answer.

Major oil companies have a larg R&D department. They test other oils and greases against theirs. Can't go wrong using a major brand oil.

Local trucking company has been using it for the last eight years or so. They have over 100 semis on it. They where able to increase the oil change interval. to 25,0000 miles. I have seen the Oil scans from some of the trucks. The oil is holding up real well at that many miles.

The owner says he is saving 30-40% on his oil cost. It is working for him. He does have very good equipment. That is maintained very well too.

Thanks JDseller, I was hoping someone had actual information.