Here we are in a place where agriculture is in jeopardy, slow demise but still going, all because the city is nearby, and or urban sprawl wants to come in, I come home and see the sign up for a TSC to be built. Well I guess I won't have to go far to get a darned lynch pin or something anymore ! I did not think they were expanding or putting up new stores, the land was available for 1.9 million a few years back, B1 commercial zoning, go 1000 feet to our place still A42 ag zoning and to get a variance or zoning change for another use is like winning the lottery.
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Super Steve
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they are building it on the edge of the city because cidiots think the stuff is a good deal and they can go in there in there volvo and bmw suvs and get a bag of over priced horse manure for there gardens when farmers would go a few more miles down the road and stop and see Bob to get a pickup load for free and Bob would likely load it for free.
Had one just open here at the edge of the Adirondacks within the last 6 months or so. It was a greenfield construction so they apparently thought it was worth their while to buy a corner lot and put in a brand-new building. Mostly caters to pet owners and the wanna-be-horsey-set but we've got enough dairy farms still going around here that they have a fair amount of larger farm stuff as well.
Michael Soldan
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They are catering to the yuppie market..riding mowers and BarBQues! There are two TSC stores I use,one has gotten out of plow shares, rake teeth and sickle sections...like another poster said..selling yuppy stuff like garden manure and cotton gloves for the gardeners.
I suppose you may be right about their clientele, long time neighbor dairyman/farmer and one of his sons are just about adjacent, another small vegetable/greenhouse/dairy kind of farm, that once was one of 11 dairies on the same road, we do have one large dairy still going here a few miles away, and to the north about 10 miles or so is still mainly ag, with one really large dairy, 1200 head, more now as they put up another giant barn. Kubota dealer is nearby, they have some bins with bolts and hitch parts etc, also an agway feed store franchise run by some very nice people, they don't need the competition, hope full it all works, out, cripes there won't be much green landscape when I look out my kitchen window anymore darn it, on the other side of the road they want to put in some houses, a mixed use building, restaurant, only blessing is the high voltage power lines we own on both sides of them and our 20 acres of wetland that can't be developed, providing a buffer from all of this, the horizon is a changin though !
We had a local hardware/lumber store that went down the tubes a few years ago. And that building sat empty for a year or more. TSC came in and bought it and put in a store.
They have clothes, tractor implements, gates/fences/horse bedding/wood pellets, lots of stuff. I like the place, the TSC blue jeans last way longer then Levis and are $15 per pair.
They have clothes, tractor implements, gates/fences/horse bedding/wood pellets, lots of stuff. I like the place, the TSC blue jeans last way longer then Levis and are $15 per pair.
I'm not really wowed by TSC. The nearest one has trouble maintaining inventory in their automotive section a lot. Some things appear cheaper till you compare unit sizes. I thought their chain lube was a decent deal till I compared that against Deere's. Deere chain lube was a better deal. I think on hand stock of clothing like Carharts is lacking for basic things like jackets. I did not see my size chainsaw chain in stock for my Stihl saw even though the model and size are common. Did not have salamander parts this winter though I found out later there was a supplier issue at hand.
TSC has put in 7 stores in Maine in 5 years.They were the first to sell good steel fence posts under 5 bucks each.They have moved in because there is a good market that other retailers ignored.They opened their first store 35 miles from me.They moved into an exiting building.They handle Hobart welding supplies.They stock 4x6 power hack saws that you could not buy here,.Ive seen sheet metal brakes and a roller,shear and and brake combo. I just bought a small oxy/ acetylene torch kit for 300 bucks at TSC.Sears gets 379 bucks for the same outfit.When I needed an engine hoist TSC was the only place I could find one.I can buy oil dry there at a lower price than Sams club.I hope the horse peole spend plenty of money there so the store will stay open.They send out 10% discount coupons.I see a lot of complaint about TSC not having what they need on this forum.I can usually find what I need at reasonable prices.I live on a country cross road where business has been at a standstill for 40 years.You cant eat the scenery or do business with paupers.You have to have some growth.
This is a good location, a very busy 2 lane state road, only way to VT, well if you don't know the back roads further east from here. I'm sure the store will do fine I would think, now I am really curious to see the site plan, it sits on one side of what was a rock cut for the state road, has a nice older home and another 50's era apartment building existing. I've looked at the corner of this town road and state road since I was old enough to walk, hard to imagine one of these there, boy there's gonna be a pile of shale coming out of that site if they lower it down like the adjacent properties are now, you would never know there used to be 2 vertical walls on each side of this road.
A Tractor Supply store opened in Garden City, KS (SW KS) a couple of months ago. Nearest one was in Wichita, KS, 200 miles away. Suits me because now I can drive 2 miles instead of about 5 to the two other "farm" stores we have here, but they do not have everything. Up front in the local newspaper they said they have some things farmers are interested in, but that they are oriented toward people with small acreages -- nothing wrong with that. We have CaseIH, New Holland, and JD for the rest, as well as several other specialty stores for hydraulics, bearings, other repairs, etc. I won't criticize them, and hope they have success.
My home was taken for an interstate highway when I was 29.My parents and Uncle house was taken too.We were surrounded by poultry and dairy farms.They are gone now ,I worked on 3 of them.I headed for Maine and bought an old farm.I am glad that time stood still here.A city of 40000 25 miles away had farms right againt the city limits.One big dairy was sold in 1975 and a big mall was built.Now the area is covered with Home Depot,Lowes.Walmart, Target.You name it they have a store there.The town I was born in went from 10000 to 30000 in 30 years.The farms were eaten up by house lots.The farm I worked on had 40 acres,it has 100 condominium units on it now.We have had a lot of houses built here since 1975.Friend and I trucked lumber from NY with a new 1955 F8 FORD.My grand daughters boy friend works for TSC.He had a hard time finding a job out of high school,Hes a dept manager now.
S.Steve...I like that word "cidiots" as it aptly describes some folk.
However...let's give the BMW set credit for even attempting to grow a garden. Who knows...might make them appreciate just a bit more just HOW and WHERE their foodstuff comes from.
As far as TSC is concerned...if people will let them "know" (politely, of course) that there is a line or item needed, it may make a difference it what is stocked on the shelves. They have a pretty good catalog...not sure about ordering, etc. as I've never done that.
JMHO
Rick
However...let's give the BMW set credit for even attempting to grow a garden. Who knows...might make them appreciate just a bit more just HOW and WHERE their foodstuff comes from.
As far as TSC is concerned...if people will let them "know" (politely, of course) that there is a line or item needed, it may make a difference it what is stocked on the shelves. They have a pretty good catalog...not sure about ordering, etc. as I've never done that.
JMHO
Rick
Anonymous-0
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The one nearest to me simply has to be the worst one in the chain. There's another one about 45 minutes farther away that just may be the BEST one in the chain. (Shelbyville Ky) I drive the extra miles.
They do have a few things. Just not much that goes on a tractor. Not like they used to anyways.
They do have a few things. Just not much that goes on a tractor. Not like they used to anyways.
I moved back to SD in 2000. To the town i was born in in 1940. It was population 13,000 then, and is 14,200 now, 70 years later. On the 10 miles of main highway between my place and town, there has been a lot of construction since I moved here. 4 homes, and three pole barns, and a cattle feedlot.
Anonymous-0
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In our neck of the woods in norther IL we have Farm & Fleet and they are a pretty good farm store, once in while travel out to Iowa and they have Thiesens farm stores and I think they are the best, TSC has a small store close to us but very limited.
400Dtractorman
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I live in MD but have two stores in nearby PA. Everytime you go in it looks like there going out of business. Plenty of junk but tools, auto/tractor items seem to be empty all the time. It looks like there going out of business in those departments. I don't think the prices are that great either.
TomA in CA
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TSC means a lot to me. Back in the early '60's when I got out of school I wanted to farm. It was considered a dumb thing to do and there were no or very few stores where you could get mower parts and stuff. I used to mail order stuff from TSC same logo and everything. I think they were in the midwest somewhere. I never expected they would ever have a store "out here". (California)
A few years back we needed to find where to get baling wire. We learned that TSC had it in a new store in Gilroy and they were the only ones that had it. Now there is a store in Los Banos, Atwater and even Sonora. If they have stores here and in Maine too... how many stores do they have.
I pass by the Los Banos store all the time but late at night and they are closed. They are pretty good on oil but Wal*Mart is just as good and they are open late.
Their parts are low end aftermarket but at least they are available. TSC had a PTO part on the shelf that I waited months for nnalert to backorder.
Use caution though, there is a lot of cheap Chinese crap in those stores.
A few years back we needed to find where to get baling wire. We learned that TSC had it in a new store in Gilroy and they were the only ones that had it. Now there is a store in Los Banos, Atwater and even Sonora. If they have stores here and in Maine too... how many stores do they have.
I pass by the Los Banos store all the time but late at night and they are closed. They are pretty good on oil but Wal*Mart is just as good and they are open late.
Their parts are low end aftermarket but at least they are available. TSC had a PTO part on the shelf that I waited months for nnalert to backorder.
Use caution though, there is a lot of cheap Chinese crap in those stores.
Anonymous-0
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Nothing is impossible but if the sprawl gets near your place, kiss goodbye to your zoning plus prepare for an increase in your rates..Nothing is hard and fast when it comes to money or the making of it.Council makes the rules but if there is a sniff... goodbye
Anonymous-0
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if the help can read the catalog, called about a sickle for a haybine was told that a neighboring store had it in stock, I read off the part number was assured that they had the one i wanted, Well needless to say the clerk read the wrong line in the book, did give me a free drink but didn't buy the wasted time or fuel.
flying belgian
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I went in to the local Fleet Farm and asked the punk if they had the brackets for mounting a SMV emblem. He said What's a SMV emblem? I said slow moving vehicle emblem. He said what's that? And this is the kid that was working in the farm section of the store not the fleet section what ever that is.
Same here with TSC and Rural King. There is a Rural King 15 miles from my house. I went by there one morn'n after my night job to get some rake teeth last summer. They were sold out and the new manager told me that they had not sold any of the ones they had on hand all winter and had just had a big run on them the last week or two and he didn't know when they would get more in. I told him the town needed a good farm store and he was waste'n space. They will always have John Deere tee shirts and cow crap in a bag but a farm store they are not. TSC next town up is worse.
Dave
Dave
Brian Jasper co. Ia
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TSC is not the same store they used to be. Years back they really were a farm type store. Now it's more pointed at people that have a horse or 2, live on an acreage and don't farm. The store in Newton Ia closed last Dec. Theissen's is a little better, but not much.
larry@stinescorner
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the closet one to us here in nj is in Ringoes nj,just south of Flemington nj In PA the closest one is in Trexlertown PA, There was one in Kutztown,but it is not there anymore. I bought 5 gal pails of barn paint made by valspar and it did preety well so far
Bingo.
My family ran an Agway for 50+ years. When my dad got out of it they were forcing all the "small" stores out, all they wanted was large modern stores that followed their design.
Then they went belly up and were purchased by Southern States.
From what I hear just about anyone can get a franchise now.
The one my family had was run out of a barn, no heat, nothing fancy. A real farm store. It didn't look big but they move a lot of grain through that building.
K
My family ran an Agway for 50+ years. When my dad got out of it they were forcing all the "small" stores out, all they wanted was large modern stores that followed their design.
Then they went belly up and were purchased by Southern States.
From what I hear just about anyone can get a franchise now.
The one my family had was run out of a barn, no heat, nothing fancy. A real farm store. It didn't look big but they move a lot of grain through that building.
K
Anonymous-0
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400, there are several tough sh!t charlies in MD, Westminster, mt airy, Waldorf, Port Tobacco, may be more I am forgetting. They are the latest incarnation of chain store like central tractor used to be. They speculate on the real estate, try to compete with walmart, on clothes and fishing gear, and fail soon after. When you ask them where the item you want is, and point out the empty spot on the shelf, they say, "tough sh!t, Charlie!"
TSC is not a bad store. They sell what people buy. Period. As for you "farmers" who complain that they don't have what a "real" farmer needs, how much stuff have you ordered online? Online shopping has taken a bite out of just about every local retailer's shelf stock.
I just bought some field fence from them, can't get that online or at Sears. They only had 1 roll of the heavier stuff I wanted but a store a little farther away has plenty. Also bought a hydrant pump repair kit there. About the same price as online. Think Lowe's carries those? How about a top-link or drawbar or PTO shaft yoke? Just saw a pile of sickle bar teeth there last week. Right there on the shelf. Granted the kid behind the desk sometimes may not know everything about what I'm looking for but they're polite, willing to look in the catalog, call another store, etc. I figure the kid is at least trying and not sitting in front of a video game at home.
We also get our horse treats, betadyne, vet wrap, etc. there. So I guess that makes me one of them "1 or 2 horse" people that some posters look down on. OK, I'm not a "real" farmer but TSC gets a fair amount of my money and they don't ask me for my "farmer's id" when I walk in the door. :lol: I'm not disparaging farmers, I appreciate how hard their work is, the uncertainty of the business and the fact that most of them provide something that we ALL need to survive, food. Just lighten up on the BMW crowd that may shop at TSC. It might be the doctor who just did your wife's open-heart surgery. (No, I don't own a BMW, it's a 2001 Chevy pickup with 121k miles on it)
So, I may wince when I walk in the door and see piles of miniature horse figurines, toy tractors, etc. but I am usually satisfied when I walk OUT the door with whatever I needed to buy.
I just bought some field fence from them, can't get that online or at Sears. They only had 1 roll of the heavier stuff I wanted but a store a little farther away has plenty. Also bought a hydrant pump repair kit there. About the same price as online. Think Lowe's carries those? How about a top-link or drawbar or PTO shaft yoke? Just saw a pile of sickle bar teeth there last week. Right there on the shelf. Granted the kid behind the desk sometimes may not know everything about what I'm looking for but they're polite, willing to look in the catalog, call another store, etc. I figure the kid is at least trying and not sitting in front of a video game at home.
We also get our horse treats, betadyne, vet wrap, etc. there. So I guess that makes me one of them "1 or 2 horse" people that some posters look down on. OK, I'm not a "real" farmer but TSC gets a fair amount of my money and they don't ask me for my "farmer's id" when I walk in the door. :lol: I'm not disparaging farmers, I appreciate how hard their work is, the uncertainty of the business and the fact that most of them provide something that we ALL need to survive, food. Just lighten up on the BMW crowd that may shop at TSC. It might be the doctor who just did your wife's open-heart surgery. (No, I don't own a BMW, it's a 2001 Chevy pickup with 121k miles on it)
So, I may wince when I walk in the door and see piles of miniature horse figurines, toy tractors, etc. but I am usually satisfied when I walk OUT the door with whatever I needed to buy.
Lamar Fudd
Member
TSC's home office was in Omaha back in the sixties. They were a great competitor to Central Tractor in our area. So great, in fact, that they closed their store. That boosted Centrals business so much that another company, Quality, I think, bought out Central Tractor and proceeded to run them into the ground. Both my daughters worked for C.T. as they called it, and both could see the damage Quality was causing-selling and mounting passenger car tires; no Pickup or implement tires. You know what happened to Central Tractor-Out of Business. Just as Wards was good competition for Sears, when Wards was purchased by Mobil Oil, they went down the drain, leaving Sears to do whatever Sears wanted, and that was lose business until one of the original "Five and Dimes", Kresge-now known as K-Mart, bought them for cheap. Ahh, the history of Commerce in these, Our United States.
the thing with TSC is they sell basically what is needed in the immediate area.I have two within driving distance of my place .one is basically a feed store for horse owners,and a parts place for some urban cowboy to get parts for his lawn mower.the other which is closer to the farmming comunity, does 5 times the buisness,carries wear parts that farmers need on a regular basis..I'm beginning to hate some of their parts,since some are of the very lowest quality,but they can get you back up and running if needed.nothing wrong with heir aproach to buisness,its what the area needs that drives it,but the quality of things could be far better I think.
I do hope the new store helps you with parts when you need them. I wouldn't get too excited, though. Even a lynch pin might be a challange.
Here we have several TSC's , a Rural King, a Big R and a Quality Farm and Home store all within an hour's drive. One TSC has stacks of moldboard plow parts, the next may have none. One TSC has a decent selection of sprayer and liquid fertilizer parts, another has almost nothing. One TSC has boxes and boxes of baling wire that have been there since they moved in. The Rural King has the most selection of tractor/equipment parts, but none of these stores have selections that are all that impressive. The Big R has some chisel and field cultivator points, but in all of their infinite wisdom stock no plow bolts to mount them with, nor can they order them. It' would also be nice that these stores realize that when there's 7 NH rake teeth left in stock in May, it's time to reorder. Instead, it seems they wait until November, missing out on a season of potential sales and ticking off the customer.
We had several Quality Farm and Fleet's in the area. They went belly-up. Other than the competion between TSC and QFF I don't miss them.
We also had a store called Big Blue that was pretty good, but that closed about 20 years ago.
All of these stores hire just about anyone, and it seems the more clueless about agriculture they are the faster they're hired. It almost never pays to call ahead and see if they have something in stock, they either don't have a clue what you're talking about or don't bother to look. I once waited 15+ minutes while checking out at TSC for them to try and find a "SKU" for plow bolts. I hope those bolts are still sitting on the conveyer belt.
I also see the logic of these types of stores stocking what sells. They can probably make more selling a pair of jeans or a bag of dog chow than a tune-up kit for an 8N Ford any day, and of what parts they do stock, many don't seem to move very fast. They cater to the horse/pet crowd, the weekend farmer, stock some lawn & garden and hardware, a few tools, and have a big wardrobe dept. because it keeps the place in business. It's the same reason Sears doesn't sell David Bradley farm equipment anymore, either. The demand isn't there, and money is made easier and faster, and with less overhead elsewhere.
AG
Here we have several TSC's , a Rural King, a Big R and a Quality Farm and Home store all within an hour's drive. One TSC has stacks of moldboard plow parts, the next may have none. One TSC has a decent selection of sprayer and liquid fertilizer parts, another has almost nothing. One TSC has boxes and boxes of baling wire that have been there since they moved in. The Rural King has the most selection of tractor/equipment parts, but none of these stores have selections that are all that impressive. The Big R has some chisel and field cultivator points, but in all of their infinite wisdom stock no plow bolts to mount them with, nor can they order them. It' would also be nice that these stores realize that when there's 7 NH rake teeth left in stock in May, it's time to reorder. Instead, it seems they wait until November, missing out on a season of potential sales and ticking off the customer.
We had several Quality Farm and Fleet's in the area. They went belly-up. Other than the competion between TSC and QFF I don't miss them.
We also had a store called Big Blue that was pretty good, but that closed about 20 years ago.
All of these stores hire just about anyone, and it seems the more clueless about agriculture they are the faster they're hired. It almost never pays to call ahead and see if they have something in stock, they either don't have a clue what you're talking about or don't bother to look. I once waited 15+ minutes while checking out at TSC for them to try and find a "SKU" for plow bolts. I hope those bolts are still sitting on the conveyer belt.
I also see the logic of these types of stores stocking what sells. They can probably make more selling a pair of jeans or a bag of dog chow than a tune-up kit for an 8N Ford any day, and of what parts they do stock, many don't seem to move very fast. They cater to the horse/pet crowd, the weekend farmer, stock some lawn & garden and hardware, a few tools, and have a big wardrobe dept. because it keeps the place in business. It's the same reason Sears doesn't sell David Bradley farm equipment anymore, either. The demand isn't there, and money is made easier and faster, and with less overhead elsewhere.
AG
Karl in MD
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I worked for CT years ago. What actually happened was they merged with Quality Farm & Fleet without doing their homework first. Q F&F sucked them down into a pond of red ink, then TSC bought them for pennies on the dollar and liquidated the stores. My wife works for TSC now, and they are making money hand over fist.
(quoted from post at 13:05:36 05/17/11) TSC is not a bad store. They sell what people buy. Period. As for you "farmers" who complain that they don't have what a "real" farmer needs, how much stuff have you ordered online? Online shopping has taken a bite out of just about every local retailer's shelf stock.
Tractor Supply Company hasn't lived up to it's name in 30+ years. It would be like Toys-R-Us becoming a restaraunt chain and keeping the name. This is what ticks many (myself included) "farmers" off. The fact that most new machinery has fewer user-servicable parts than years past and fewer people work on what machinery that actually can be user-serviced than compared to years past may have contributed to TSC not carrying agricutural parts like they once did, but the internet had absolutely nothing to do with this. Most "farmers" would prefer purchasing inputs, parts, supplies, etc. locally. If anything, "farmers" and others use the internet because places like TSC stock next to nothing.
I don't care what they choose to choose to sell, I just wish they'd change their name. How about "Carhartt Country" or "Mr. Ed's Horse Palace", or "MTD & ETC.", or "F.K.A. TSC"?
AG
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