Is my truck tough enough

Need to haul a Jd 830 (3cyl diesel 70?s model) about 200 miles. Can borrow a tandem axle trailer that will hold it but my truck is a F150 with a six cylinder will be traveling 55 mph highways can it do the job? If not what?s the going rate for haulers in West Kentucky and West Tennessee?
 
Should work...those are not too heavy, guessing 5000 lbs give or take, depending on ballast etc. Just make sure it's properly chained down to satisfy the load police!
Ben.
 
A 730 is going to be a minimum of 7000lbs, more depending on if it has wheel weights, fluid in the tires, etc.. Could be as much as 10,000lbs. You might want to consider putting the tractor on a diet before you move it, and bring the weights in a separate trip.

With a trailer suitable to haul that tractor you're looking at a minimum of 9500lbs total load behind the truck, with about 1200lbs on the tongue. It's going to be a load.

There's a whole lot of variation in an F150. You could have a 3.08 axle ratio at which point you won't hardly be able to move the loaded trailer, or you could have a 4.10 axle ratio which will work pretty well at lower speeds. Plus any of several ratios in between. Certainly won't be able to run 55 much, especially if there are any hills. Factory springs can be pretty soft too.

So are we talking about a stock grocery-getter F150 or a beefed up tow monster?
 
You guys are thinking of the wrong 830. He is talking about this 830 that deere made.
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You should be able to pull the tractor. When we pulled our 1950 John Deere A home, the truck was about two or three inches from the ground. It was a slow ride (under 50).
 
Your truck will handle it fine. Just make sure it's loaded so it has enough tongue weight so you are stable. You will want to see 6-12" of drop at the bumper.
 

Tough enough is not the question, it is stopping ability. There is considerable variation in both the tractor weight and the F-150 GCVW rating. You need to find out if the 830's tires are loaded and does it have added weight. If not it should be well under 5,000 lbs. The GCVW of your 150 will be in the driver's door frame. Do the math and stay near legal. It also depends on whether or not you have property that you could lose in a lawsuit if things go bad and you are not legal.
 
$4 per loaded mile (2oo miles X $4/mile = $800), but there are about 8 hour of a driver's time included in that. If it saves you a trip and a full days time it might be well worth it. Check with a local implement dealer or the "Hauling Schedule" in the left hand column of this page (classic view).

A 5000 pound tractor plus a 2000 pound trailer is a lot for a half ton pickup to tow. Can you borrow or hire a larger truck from the same person you would lend you the trailer? Hopefully they don't have a Farm Plate restriction on distance.
 
Enterprise rents pickup trucks. I can get a 3/4 ton for about $100 a day. I would feel more comfortable with a 3/4 v8. For a short trip I think my truck might handle it ok.
 
(quoted from post at 20:00:43 10/31/18) Need to haul a Jd 830 (3cyl diesel 70?s model) about 200 miles. Can borrow a tandem axle trailer that will hold it but my truck is a F150 with a six cylinder will be traveling 55 mph highways can it do the job? If not what?s the going rate for haulers in West Kentucky and West Tennessee?

Look into renting a Penske local rental truck.
Rent one with a 22 foot box on it and a hitch that will pull the trailer.
 
TractorData says the 830 your looking to haul weighs 4376# to 5715#, and like already stated, could be even heavier, like with loader, weights, etc. You don't say what model year your F150 is, could make a WORLD of difference. If it's old enough to have the old 300-6 inline 6 they were really kinda gutless, only rated 4000-5000# towing capacity. I had two of them, 16 years and 190,000 miles, they will move it, but hope you don't have to climb any hills! Or are in a hurry. The newer 6 cylinders probably could tow it better.

Hope you have a trailer brake controller, I recommend a Prodigy. Somebody said load tractor to squat back of your truck 12 inches. DO NOT follow that advice! 5-6 inches will be about right. You will be over your recommended trailer tow rating. Figure 2000# trailer, 5000# tractor, so 7000# for a truck rated to tow 4000-5000#. My '96 F250 is rated to tow 16,000# gross, truck is 6000#, trailer 3000#, Farmall M & loader was close to 9000#, so right around 2000# over and I hauled it 200 miles all Interstate with absolutely NO problem. My F250 lost tow capacity, 2000# because of 3.55 gears, 2000# more because of 5 spd manual trans. Both options in MY Favor if you ask me, so brakes, springs, tires, etc all good to 20,000# gross. I've drove everything from over-loaded 1940's and '50's vintage farm trucks, dump trucks, readymix trucks, drove 18-wheelers for several years, I've backed up more miles than most of these "experts" have driven. You would be better off with a newer V-8 powered truck if your route is hilly. My new 2018 RAM 1500 is rated to tow 15,900# gross, 100 pounds less than my 1996 F250 diesel.

I wish these guys would actually LOOK at the rating decals on the door jambs of their trucks. The gross weight rating of just the truck is there, NOT the combination rating of truck & trailer. On my '96 F250 I went page by page in both manuals, truck & 7.3PSD and no mention at all of tow rating. I WAS in the sales brochure.
 
Where do you get a tow rating of 15,900lb. for a 2018 Ram 1500 when factory specs. say 10,500 max? That 15,900lb max tow rating is what Dodge has on the new 2019 Ram 2500 trucks.
 
Come on guys. Its a little tractor. You will be fine. I've went across the continental divide with a trailer and a 300 6cyl. Spent what felt like 300 miles in 3 rd gear about 40 mph.
 
You missed the word GROSS, meaning weight of truck, trailer, and cargo, compared to my '96 F250 that was rated 16,000 GROSS. Because of 3.55 gears and 5 spd manual, Auto trans and 4.10's was 20,000#.

Thought you were a truck driver that knew that stuff?!?
 
On a cold October day, I loaded one of my JD "Ds" on to a tandem car hauler trailer ( 3500 lbs. axels). Tractor weighed in at 5125 lbs.
Truck was a 1996 F150 6 cylinder Auto. 500 miles later, after cross the Rocky Mts,(Pine Pass)stopping at one Government vehicle inspection Station I arrived at my destination.
Inspection personal were more interested in the history of the JD "D" than anything else. I asked the Inspector if I was possibly breaking any rules pertaining to the weight I was towing in regards to the weight of my F150?
Not that he could see...............:)

Bob...
 
(quoted from post at 08:15:53 11/14/18) On a cold October day, I loaded one of my JD "Ds" on to a tandem car hauler trailer ( 3500 lbs. axels). Tractor weighed in at 5125 lbs.
Truck was a 1996 F150 6 cylinder Auto. 500 miles later, after cross the Rocky Mts,(Pine Pass)stopping at one Government vehicle inspection Station I arrived at my destination.
Inspection personal were more interested in the history of the JD "D" than anything else. I asked the Inspector if I was possibly breaking any rules pertaining to the weight I was towing in regards to the weight of my F150?
Not that he could see...............:)

Bob...

Bob, Do you own your own home?
 
(quoted from post at 08:15:53 11/14/18) On a cold October day, I loaded one of my JD "Ds" on to a tandem car hauler trailer ( 3500 lbs. axels). Tractor weighed in at 5125 lbs.
Truck was a 1996 F150 6 cylinder Auto. 500 miles later, after cross the Rocky Mts,(Pine Pass)stopping at one Government vehicle inspection Station I arrived at my destination.
Inspection personal were more interested in the history of the JD "D" than anything else. I asked the Inspector if I was possibly breaking any rules pertaining to the weight I was towing in regards to the weight of my F150?
Not that he could see...............:)

Bob...

So I guess it's okay to put anything you want on any trailer you want and pull it with any truck you want regardless of your experience level and it will be just fine because nothing bad happened and nobody slapped your wrist on your ONE "sketchy" trip? Which wasn't that sketchy because you were only 125lbs over the trailers ratings well within the trucks ratings and stopped at an inspection station when you didn't need to because you weren't commercial. The only weight laws they're concerned with are 20,000lbs per single axle and 34,000 per tandem axle and you weren't anywhere near that.
 
Could?nt borrow a trailer wide enough to haul the tractor and the man who owns the tractor I?m trading for is going to haul tractors both ways. I was a bit nervous about using my truck anyway. Will reimburse him for the delivery. Thanks for all the information. And thanks for all the non Ford owners for not berating my Ford.
 
Just be SURE you have adequate Tongue Weight on the bumper (but not too much..).

Sounds like your trailer is Plenty big..!!

Have trailer brakes working, lights too..

Myself, I feel better with some dead weight laying in the truck bed...toward the front of the bed if I have to use a lot of Tongue Weight..

Your P/U should sit about level, not "Nose High" (Over-loaded)..

I have seen fellas pulling Goose-necks with a Back-Hoe , with only an F-100 1/2 ton P/U and got along ok..!
 
I really shouldn't comment on this old thread, but I will. I have hauled only one tractor in my whole life, twice. In 89 I bought a Allis C with belly mower from an older man in a town 9-10 miles away. I borrowed my dad's 88 GMC 1500 camper puller (350) and a friend's light-duty tandem axle 7000 gross trailer, with brakes on 1 axle. Plenty of truck and trailer, no problems. In 93 we were building a new house in a town 48 miles away and I wanted the tractor there. I borrowed a friends heavy car-haul trailer made with 2 mobile home axles. That thing pulled hard empty. My tow vehicle was a Chevy S10 with the small V6 and 5-speed. No trailer brakes and only the stock bumper hitch. Again no problems. Smart? NO. Luck, fate, kismet, divine providence? I think more of the latter. But I wouldn't do that now.
 
I say if your comfortable knowing you can pull and stop the weight especially in an emergency then go for it. My setup is a Ram 1500 with 5.7, 14k cap. deckover and tractor together weigh 11,000 with excellent brakes. Been hauling it now 12 yrs. with zero problems also drive according to the conditions. The truck is still like new as is the trailer which helps keep my confidence high. Good Luck and enjoy the ride.
 
(quoted from post at 04:59:48 12/27/18) I say if your comfortable knowing you can pull and stop the weight especially in an emergency then go for it. My setup is a Ram 1500 with 5.7, 14k cap. deckover and tractor together weigh 11,000 with excellent brakes. Been hauling it now 12 yrs. with zero problems also drive according to the conditions. The truck is still like new as is the trailer which helps keep my confidence high. Good Luck and enjoy the ride.

mdross, despite your luck with your truck trailer combination and how "excellent" your brakes are, Your 1500 is rated for a maximum tow capacity of 6,730. Even if it has optional load enhancement how much extra braking capacity do you have? You imply that most other drivers drive carelessly and don't maintain their equipment, so because you are careful and wax your truck every week that your gross overload condition is no problem. Well, the fact of the matter is that when some little old lady pulls out in front of you and you can't stop and you kill her, telling the court that your truck is shiny and that you drive carefully is not going to cut it. YOU WILL GO TO JAIL AND LOSE EVERYTHING. You should not hook to that trailer again! You also need to stop encouraging others to flagrantly disregard the law!!!
 
I agree with you the truck does not have the stopping ability . The way he talks the truck is 12 years old
and is a Dodge Ram 1500. The 05 Dodge Ram 1500 with 5.7 had a gross towing weight rating of 8,250 or 9,250
depending on which rear end you had in truck ( dodge specs. for 2005 Ram 2wd.). A year ago this last fall
I almost hit a car that waited to the last minute and pulled out in front of me. My 97 k1500 Gmc has the
heaviest brakes you can put on it and there for a moment I thought I was a goner. I looked all over last
winter and found a 95 Ford f450 super duty that was in nice shape for its age and is a world of difference
in towing and stopping.
 

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