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SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP

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lenray

09-14-2020 16:00:07




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A while back I was asking about a small sprayer and using Roundup. I got the 26 gallon sprayer that I haul in a small trailer behind my quad. I am more than pleased on how the sprayer works and how the Roundup worked.
QUESTION---Is Roundup going to stay on the market or is it going away????

Also I am here in Michigan----Can I use Roundup at this fall period for grass and weeds around buildings or should I just wait until spring????
The grass and weeds that have already been killed---what will they look like in the spring??? Thanks for all the help......len

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sotxbill

09-17-2020 07:49:47




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
From the epa website...

In January 2020, after receiving and considering public comments on the glyphosate proposed interim decision, EPA released the interim decision for registration review. As part of this action, EPA continues to find that there are no risks of concern to human health when glyphosate is used in accordance with its current label. EPA also found that glyphosate is unlikely to be a human carcinogen. EPA is requiring management measures to help farmers target pesticide sprays to intended pests, protect pollinators, and reduce the problem of weeds becoming resistant to glyphosphate.



This release was in most of the farm magazines. It clearly disputes the european findings... that ""only suggest"" the glyphosphate "could or maybe" cause cancer.. However why would you let the truth get in the way of a trail lawyer going after money.

In one of the better trial cases, a worker had a hose blow off and cover him with chemicals... and later did... develop cancer.. but he actually ingested and inhaled the solution. So... yes... if used correctly,, there is no proof yet... if you drink it,,, there might be some proof.

Remember that 245t had chemicals that also.... did not break down, and stayed around for long periods until finally diluted over many many years.

Modern pestacides/herbacides have to break down in 14 days. and be inert. But even drinking gasolene can cause cancer, so DONT DO IT.

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GeneMO

09-16-2020 16:59:41




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Roundup wan't invented until sometime in the mid 1970's. I do not think it was used in Vietnam. I think earliest I remember physically having a jug of Roundup was about 1974 or 1975. It was about $75 a gallon.
You are thinking of 2, 45T, the old fashioned brush killer.

They banned that stuff here in the US decades ago.

Gene



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1948CaseVAI

09-16-2020 10:44:45




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
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Roundup is not even remotely related to agent orange, which contained dioxin which is nearly the most poisonous chemical on the planet.
The only chemicals more poisonous than dioxin are radioactive poisons such as plutonium or one of the variants llike the Russians use to kill their enemies. At least in the US Roundup is here to stay. Now they may add on to the cost to pay legal fees, but that is a separate matter.

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DoubleO7

09-16-2020 07:38:05




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
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I already did.

I already know.

If others want to know they can do the same.

If you do not want to know, thats your choice.



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Aaron SEIA

09-16-2020 04:08:24




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
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There wasn't Glyphosate in Agent Orange. It was 2,4-D and 2,4,5-T. It was something in the production of the 2,4,5-T that made it the carcinogenic that it was. Glyphosate and 2,4-D are perfectly safe if used correctly.

AaronSEIA



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MJMJ

09-15-2020 18:00:22




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
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Go ahead and Google and let us know what countries have banned glyphosate. Its not going anywhere.



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Billy Shafer

09-15-2020 08:22:44




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
All I will say is be careful with that stuff. Some of us Vietnam vets. Have been paying for it's use.



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DoubleO7

09-15-2020 08:10:11




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
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There are more bans around the world in effect or soon to be.

Just GOOGLE (it's your friend) "where is glyphosate banned"

But not nationwide in USA.



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rrlund

09-15-2020 06:09:41




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
It's not going anywhere Leonard. No sense storing it. Who knows about the price, could go up, could come down. Shop around.



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MJMJ

09-15-2020 06:08:27




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
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Not sure where you live, but that's not the case in the US. As far as I know, Austria is the only country in the world that has banned glyphosate. And I doubt RFD TV is reporting much on Austria?



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Russ from MN

09-15-2020 06:02:51




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
For our tree planting operation we have good luck spraying in the fall, I plan on spraying as soon as I get a day that's not windy. Gives the seedlings a head start without weeds brush. I use glyphosate and 2,4-D mixed together. I was told spraying in the fall the weeds pull it down into the roots and kill them.



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paul

09-14-2020 21:42:09




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Glyphosate should be around for quite a while.

It kills green plants, except water hemp and a few others. It kills actively growing plants, now or in spring or summer.

It does not kill any seeds at all, so in spring the bare ground will sprout up a new crop of weeds.

Paul



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miner09

09-14-2020 18:40:02




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Roundup and generic will no longer be available after Jan 1 2021.It's been on RFD and my local supplier said same. You may be able to find it if farm supply's have a big stock pile. All due to the law suits.I'm sure they have something to replace it. Just more money.



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MarkB_MI

09-15-2020 03:12:11




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to miner09, 09-14-2020 18:40:02  
> Roundup and generic will no longer be available after Jan 1 2021

What country do you live in?



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c.oawright

09-14-2020 17:19:08




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Glyphosate and Imazapyr
The Imazapyr is the per-emergent chemical. It is supposed to kill germinating seedlings .Glyphosate is the systemic weed killer.. Plants need to be actively growing to be most effective.

One trade name is RM43



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c.oawright

09-14-2020 17:10:07




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Glyphosate is the chemical name. The generic 42 percent Glyphosate manufacture by other vendors is readily available in many farm stores. Roundup is the trade name



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MJMJ

09-14-2020 17:04:57




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Glyphosate will always be here.
The dead plants are dead and wont come back alive. But next spring new ones will grow unless you have the extended version of Roundup, which just means it has a type of pre emergent herbicide in the mix. It will prevent most plants from growing for up to a year.



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Loosehandle

09-14-2020 17:03:52




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Biggest problem is some weeds are getting resistance to it.



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Dean

09-14-2020 16:44:46




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
Patents have long since expired so anyone can and does make generic Ropundup.

Should be able to buy it indefinitely despite the plaintiff's bar.

Dean



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Retired Farmer

09-14-2020 16:18:25




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 Re: SPRAYER AND ROUNDUP in reply to lenray, 09-14-2020 16:00:07  
My experience, they will be bright and green and growing like weeds.



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