neverfear
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Anyone here have one? Love it? Hate it?
The one I'm looking at is one of the later knockoffs so not military issue.
The one I'm looking at is one of the later knockoffs so not military issue.
(quoted from post at 13:44:41 07/29/20) You have to remember military rifles are design to wound not kill as such. If you wound one man that remove 2 or 3 from the fight because it takes 2 or 3 out of action taking care of the wounded man.
As for a heavy coat stopping that round it would take a very very heavy coat to even come close.
Also well placed shot at a deer that round will take it down with one shot I know because I have done so in the past
(quoted from post at 02:39:49 07/30/20) The idea that the .30 Carbine cartridge isn't intended to kill is preposterous. It has a muzzle energy of nearly 1000 ft-lbs, which is roughly double the energy of a .357 Magnum.
(quoted from post at 15:58:47 07/31/20) The theory is that if a soldier is wounded it takes two other soldiers to take care of that person.
There was a lot of anecdotal reports that carbine bullets bounced off the ice covered quilted uniforms of the North Koreans.
A more plausible explanation is that the bullets over penetrated and went out the backdoor causing less damage than a long bullet that tumbles.
The proof is the Czechoslovakian Cz52 roller lock pistol that shot a 30 caliber round at 1700 fps. (7.62x 25 Tokarev). It had the same problem which was over penetration.
Both rounds use short round nose bullets that aren't as likely to tumble and expend energy.
(quoted from post at 19:22:30 07/29/20)(quoted from post at 13:44:41 07/29/20) You have to remember military rifles are design to wound not kill as such. If you wound one man that remove 2 or 3 from the fight because it takes 2 or 3 out of action taking care of the wounded man.
As for a heavy coat stopping that round it would take a very very heavy coat to even come close.
Also well placed shot at a deer that round will take it down with one shot I know because I have done so in the past
Are you actually saying that the M1 Garand 30.06 was designed to wound enemies? I don't think so. I agree that a wounded enemy takes another to take care of him but that Garand was definitely not designed to wound people.
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