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Re: M1 .30 Carbine

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Fred from MO

07-29-2020 06:43:52




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They are nice little handy guns. Originally designed to be used by support personnel and officers-not front line battle operations in WWII. The main front line rifle was the M1 Grand which fired the very powerful .30-06 round. The M1-Carbine utilizes the M1 Carbine .30 cal round. This round is essentially a pistol round. The pros of the M1-Carbine are: 1) Light weigh, 2) compact 3) you can get a 30 round magazine for this rifle, 4) Original ones are very collectable (there were about 10 manufactures from WWII with some of the most desired by collectors being the ones made at the Rockola Juke Box company. Other manufactures were: General Motors, IBM, Winchester and others..
Cons of the rifle are 1) The pistol round lacks range 2)The pistol round lacks stopping power on very large game an humans with heavy coats as reported from those who used the rifle in Korea going against heavy coated Chinese during the battle of Chosen Reservoir.

Overall if you have any appreciation of American history. I would get one-if nothing more than just to look at and hold a piece of American history (much like tractor collecting)

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07-29-2020 13:44:41




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 Re: M1 .30 Carbine in reply to Fred from MO, 07-29-2020 06:43:52  
You have to remember military rifles are design to wound not kill as such. If you wound one man that remove 2 or 3 from the fight because it takes 2 or 3 out of action taking care of the wounded man.

As for a heavy coat stopping that round it would take a very very heavy coat to even come close.

Also well placed shot at a deer that round will take it down with one shot I know because I have done so in the past

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Billy NY

07-29-2020 13:37:41




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 Re: M1 .30 Carbine in reply to Fred from MO, 07-29-2020 06:43:52  
In my experience shooting a few thousand of rounds of .30 carbine military ball ammo, it will punch right through an 8" tree at 75'-0". At just over 100 yards, the same ammo will embed into a common 70's steel GM pick up truck rim. I don't discredit what has been said for years, maybe question it a little about those winter coats stopping these rounds like a bullet proof vest. There is no way I would trust a thick coat to protect from bullet penetration of M1 carbine ball ammo LOL. That would have been a great one for "Mythbusters" to test !

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