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Strange welding rod

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300jk

07-14-2020 15:23:40




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Ok this was on the big bridge job I have been working on today. All the bridge I beams are set. Today a company came in and welded steel studs perpendicular to the beams on top of them. Then they took aluminum angle iron and welded them to the steel studs. The welder was a Miller Bobcat. These angles support steel pans which the bridge deck is poured on. I didnít have a chance to talk to the welders. So what rod would weld the aluminum angle to the steel studs ?

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Stephen Newell

07-15-2020 18:35:35




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
Apparently it can be done. Here is what I found on the net. https://www.midsouthsupply.com/welding-aluminum-to-steel/ Don't look like something I would want to do.



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teddy52food

07-15-2020 10:57:12




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
If you run an engine with no oil or water, I have seen where the aluminum piston would weld itself to the cast iron block! No rods needed!



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dr sportster

07-15-2020 07:36:55




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
None I ever heard of !



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DoubleO7

07-15-2020 06:51:41




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
Duh, I should have known they were stud anchors for concrete.

I have drafted dozens of fab drawings with such being used.

We called them headed anchors or HA's.

Even thou shear anchors may have been ordered.



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Mule Meat

07-15-2020 06:44:26




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
Miller Bobcat?

Always thought that Capacitor Discharge or Drawn Arc Stud welders were used to weld studs to iron beams.
Cant weld aluminum to iron. May have welded steel to iron then threaded an aluminum nut or sleeve over the stud if aluminum was actually used.



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Jim.ME

07-15-2020 06:31:53




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
He is talking about shear studs. I would expect the angle was galvanized or stainless. I'm not quite following the description of the angle welded to the studs to support the pans; as normally the pans would be at or below the top of the beams where the studs are, from what I am experienced with.

(Picture from the internet)

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DoubleO7

07-14-2020 17:56:13




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
The angles could have been stainless vs galvanized.

But not aluminum welded to steel.

Were the "steel studs" the commercial building wall studs?



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teddy52food

07-14-2020 17:48:49




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
Try a magnet on those angles & get back to us!



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skip burney

07-14-2020 17:39:49




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
You cannot weld a ferrous alloy to a non ferrous alloy



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mtny

07-14-2020 17:33:37




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 Re: Strange welding rod in reply to 300jk, 07-14-2020 15:23:40  
Are you sure it wasn't galvanized angle ? Hot- dipped can be shiny . If it is aluminum it's something I never heard of in 35 years of metal work .



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