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submersible pump in a well

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Roger in Iowa

07-13-2020 14:56:51




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Is there any way to determine if a submersible pump that has been unused for sometime and down in a well, is 120V or 240V without pulling it?

Only thing we can try is to hook it up to a 120v generator and see if it might work.

Ideas?




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glennster

07-14-2020 17:51:35




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
i had my well pump replaced last year. it was a 3/4 hp 220 v. only had 2 wires feeding it. iirc, they were number 10. no ground. the new pump has a ground. perhaps the wire gauge may be a clue.



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Dusty MI

07-14-2020 14:54:44




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
I've know of a well or 2 that were drilled to water cattle, even though the water flowed, without a pump, enough to water
the cattle, a pump was still in the well, but not wired, incase down the road the water stopped flowing enough.
Dusty



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Mule Meat

07-14-2020 13:41:56




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
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I did read it and he ask for ideas.

1. It operates using electric.

2. It would have to have been wired from some source such as a breaker box, plug, cutoff switch etc somewhere. House, pump house, barn somewhere.
3. It is a good bet that somewhere between the power meter and pump. A breaker was used.

Idea??? Look for a breaker box.

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showcrop

07-14-2020 10:10:25




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
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Mule meat, go back and read the thread :roll:



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Mule Meat

07-14-2020 05:22:36




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
Walk over to the breaker box and take a look. 👀



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buickanddeere

07-14-2020 04:09:09




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
How many wires , what colour and how many are insulated ?



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wore out

07-13-2020 22:36:17




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
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States typically have some sort of water well registry.

If you contact yours they may have records that will lead to the well driller that drilled it, or did major work on it (depending on the reporting rules in your state and if they were followed).

If you get lucky and the contractor is still in business he should have a record of details of the well including the make and model of pump that was last installed.

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LeakyBoot

07-13-2020 18:50:56




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
99 percent are 240 volt. If it has 3 wires coming out of the well it could be a 2 wire with a ground wire or a 3 wire that needs a control box. Those wires are red black and yellow if wired up correct. If it has 2 wires it is what we call a two wire pump and needs no control box to run. You can check the wires with an Ohm meter. A two wire motor will read something like 4 to 8 ohms on two wires and nothing on the ground, if it has one. A three wire will read 4 to 8 on the run windings, yellow and black, and something like 12 to 18 on the red start winding. That is red to yellow and red to black to check the start winding.

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Caryc

07-13-2020 18:24:44




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
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It depends on how deep your well is. My well is 120 feet deep and has a 240 volt pump down there. It all depends on how much power is need to get the water to the surface.
Do you know how deep the well is?



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Rogeriniowa

07-13-2020 17:07:22




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
Thanks all for the comments. No electrical boxes, etc for many years. Haven't seen pit so maybe something there. No power at location.



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ss55

07-14-2020 09:21:04




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Rogeriniowa, 07-13-2020 17:07:22  
Do you know why the well was abandon? If you plan to drink the water it may be worth getting the water tested sooner rather than later. To get an accurate test, it may be necessary to pump out the well for a while to draw fresh water into it.



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tomturkey

07-13-2020 16:58:57




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
I don't know where you are or what the circumstance, but where did the pump previously get power, an outbuilding shed garage. Check the breaker box for evidence of the pump. may give you an answer. I know you said you were going to try a generator, was it always run by a generator???? a simple minded guy like me looks for simple answers. gobble



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David G

07-13-2020 16:36:52




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
I agree with Russ, could also be missing a starting box, no way to tell without pulling.



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RLP in Co.

07-13-2020 15:54:31




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
You will probably ruin it. Better pull it because it would only take a few seconds to burn it up If it doesn't start. If it has two wires, it is 120 volts. If it doesn't start when you touch the wires with voltage, add some capacitance and try again. If it starts but doesn't run easy, add or subtract capacitance till it sounds good.



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Russ from MN

07-13-2020 15:28:28




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
Is there anything left of the wiring that it was hooked up to? Some of them require a capacitor box above ground.



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David G

07-13-2020 14:57:52




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 Re: submersible pump in a well in reply to Roger in Iowa, 07-13-2020 14:56:51  
No, not without seeing the nameplate.



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