Sump pumps

Steve A W · Feb 15, 2020

Who makes a good pedestal sump pump, preferably made in USA?
I want to keep it a pedestal to simplify the plumbing.
Went to the local hardware because I try to buy local, and
he had a "Flotech" brand, assembled in USA, with global parts.
Came home and googled Wayne pumps and they don't make a pedestal pump.
So can anybody recommend something?
Thanks for any help.
Steve A W

David G · Feb 15, 2020

Check out AY McDonald.

They make most of their parts domestic.

jCarroll · Feb 15, 2020

How does a pedestal pump "simplify the plumbing" ?

johnlobb · Feb 15, 2020

Liberty pumps made in western New York are awesome!

Gambles · Feb 15, 2020

Does Zoeller make one for your application? I think most of theirs are American made.

kcm.MN · Feb 15, 2020

Zoeller makes a very good pump. There is one on Amazon for $252. While not pedestal pumps, I have two Superior pumps that I'm very happy with. Nice thing is, can get replacement parts for them. The model 92301 comes with a 3 year warranty and costs just under $100. Available at Amazon and Home Depot.

Steve A W · Feb 15, 2020

That's what's in there now.

kcm.MN · Feb 15, 2020

What went wrong with the old pump?

We live in a wetlands area and have had a sump pump in place and working for 12 years. Then the plastic impeller wore out. Before I could find a replacement part, ended up getting another pump, so now I have a ready replacement.

It's not unusual for our pump to put out over 3,000 gallons of water per 24 hours, and there have been times when it was over twice that. I think the original pump was ACE brand, but can't remember what the other is. I don't like Flotec either.

This old farmhouse sat empty for 20-some years before we got it, and there had been enough freeze/thaw cycles to where water comes up over most of the concrete floor. We don't use the basement and, with that much water flow, no chance for anything to get stagnant, so we've left it like that until we reach that part of the gotta-do list.

Here's that Zoeller:
https://www.amazon.com/Zoeller-84-0...r+pedestal+pump&qid=1581826318&sr=8-2

kcm.MN · Feb 15, 2020

Happened to find this article as well:

10 Best Pedestal Sump Pump Reviews 2019 Buying Guide For Newbies
https://www.waterpebble.com/best-pedestal-sump-pump-reviews/

Russ from MN · Feb 15, 2020

A submersible would probably hook right up to the same pipe!

Blackhole49 · Feb 16, 2020

Just my opinion, but the only difference between a pedestal and a submersible is the location of the motor. As long as they're the same discharge size (ie:1 1/4") the plumbing is the same. Any sump pump I've ever seen, the pump has to be near the bottom of the sump to work.

whereswaldo · Feb 16, 2020

A submersible is the best way to go. It's always under water which helps keep it cool. My first two pumps were pedestals and the drive 'axel' on both failed where it joins the impeller. Now, I've lived here since 1970 and my third pump, going on 30 years old is STILL running. It was expensive; my Dad got it from a plumbing supplier and I could've bout 4 pedestals for what that one cost. No float; it has a copper tube that senses pressure difference to turn it on and off.

Areo · Feb 16, 2020

I use stainless steel submersible pumps. Problem I had is that the rods that
tie the "head" to the base rusted off. What I do now is replace them with
stainless steel threaded rod before installing them. Last a lot longer.

38orange · Feb 17, 2020

The Flotec is a good pump assembled in Wisconsin. Many of the components are manufactured in Wisconsin too. The PSC motor it uses is a better selection for a sump pump than the split phase some others use. (Split phase has high inrush current and inherent reduced reliability due to the starting switch.) I've got some skin in the game since I work for the company that makes it. Regardless, it's a good pump and supports local people.

buickanddeere · Feb 21, 2020

(quoted from post at 00:25:35 02/16/20)

We live in a wetlands area and have had a sump pump in place and working for 12 years. Then the plastic impeller wore out. Before I could find a replacement part, ended up getting another pump, so now I have a ready replacement.

It's not unusual for our pump to put out over 3,000 gallons of water per 24 hours, and there have been times when it was over twice that.
This old farmhouse sat empty for 20-some years before we got it, and there had been enough freeze/thaw cycles to where water comes up over most of the concrete floor. We don't use the basement and, with that much water flow, no chance for anything to get stagnant, so we've left it like that until we reach that part of the gotta-do list.

How about a trench and drain tile all the way around the outside of the foundation and down past the footings. Let gravity carry the water to a ditch or pond.
Apply insulation and water barrier to the outside of the basements walls.
Back fill the trench with drainage stone to the surface .
Would rather drain the water away from the house before it gets inside .

buickanddeere · Feb 21, 2020

As much or more important as the pump is the power supply and drain.
We have all seen sump pumps discharging using the shortest length of hose possible . Onto the surface of the lawn , beside the house and on the high side .
The pump should be on it's own dedicated circuit with a 20 amp breaker, 12AWG wire, T-Slot receptacle. No GFCI and no AFCI. Legal to do so under the CEC.

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