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Electric heaters that can be installed high

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Stan in Oly, WA

12-02-2019 23:05:37




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I'm remodeling a small house that had electric baseboard heaters. In the past I've replaced baseboard heaters with wall mounted fan forced electric heaters which I feel distribute the heat better and take up a lot less wall space. It would be even better if I could use electric heaters which were designed to be installed high on a wall so that there would be no interference with the placement of beds and other furniture. Is anyone aware of such heaters? I won't be interested in going to a completely different type of heating.

Stan

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showcrop

12-04-2019 14:34:44




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
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Jim, since you are teaching physics here, here are a couple more lessons you can add. Heat transfers by various means. Probably the best known is convection, which is why hot air rises. However we can't forget radiation, which is of course what Bob was referring to with the cove heaters, and what I assumed the OP was asking about. After all they have come up here many times usually as a means of heating a shop without heating so much air. Third of course is conduction which causes heat to travel just as well down or up, as is apparent when sweating a plumbing fitting into some copper pipe.

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DR. EVIL

12-04-2019 12:57:53




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
We lived in a house that had partial electric baseboard heat. Rest of the house was LP gas forced air heat. Place had $200 a month electric bill. And about $40/month LP usage. There were some homes with $400/month elec bills on the budget plan, average monthly usage, and with no heat ducts you couldn't switch to gas forced air heat and central AC. Each room had it's own window ac unit mounted in the wall. We never did buy a house, rented for 2 years then MOVED.

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Bob

12-03-2019 20:44:18




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"a radiant heater that may be mounted high but would focus the heating on objects below. Like floors, rugs, furniture, and the like"

Jim, SO sad that you won't put your "comfort zone" by the wayside for a minute and look at "electric cove heaters".

They do EXACTLY what you wrote.



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jimg.allentown

12-04-2019 05:19:52




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Bob, 12-03-2019 20:44:18  
And this has what to do with my "comfort zone?" You have lost me there.



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jimg.allentown

12-03-2019 18:46:23




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
Seems to me that you are trying to defy the laws of physics.

Fact: heated air RISES.

Like it or not, heated air tends to rise. So, if you mount heaters high, the area below them would not be well heated. The only alternative that I could think of would be a radiant heater that may be mounted high but would focus the heating on objects below. Like floors, rugs, furniture, and the like.



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c.amick

12-03-2019 17:27:11




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
Look at Grainger's web site. I'm not saying buy from them, but you can see what is generally available.



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DoubleO7

12-03-2019 16:54:53




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
Dead short heating is quite efficient.

It is just not as economical.



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showcrop

12-03-2019 14:50:49




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Geo, I doubt very much that if you lived in NH that you would have electric heat.



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fergy 1

12-03-2019 14:26:40




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
worked for (marley engineered products) 22 years they produce a complete line of electric cove heaters. If you stay in a red roof inn you will see their coves installed.



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Dusty MI

12-03-2019 09:25:17




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
Not quite the same but might work.

I've installed in 2 different motor homes whats called a toe "kick heater" under the kitchen sink.

They are a miniature 120 volt electric furnace.
Perhaps you could build in a piece of furniture, and put one under it.
Dusty



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Jeremy in DE

12-03-2019 05:29:54




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I second Bob who said to Google "electric cove heater". Comfort Cove is a brand I have used and installed. I purchased them online through QC Supply.

Not saying they are ideal for every situation, but I really like them because they are up on the wall near the ceiling so they don't get in the way of anything. And I like the radiant heat aspect. And they are utterly silent.

Let me note they give no light. When I mention "electric radiant" many people assume they glow or something. They don't.

They work very well for me.
(Super kid safe, as they are very high on the wall. They also don't get hot, just a bit warm.)

Only downside is the inches/watt ratio means they can get pretty long if you need a lot of wattage. On the other hand many rooms have lots of space up there on the wall near the ceiling so the length isn't much of a problem.

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Bob

12-03-2019 05:09:42




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
GOOGLE "electric cove heater".



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Geo-TH,In

12-03-2019 04:48:21




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
Stan,
I'm a big fan in over insulating your house, good windows, insulated doors and electric baseboard heat. My total electric 2000 ft brick house 1000 ft basement, two car garage, well, workshop, many dusk to dawn lights. Last year $141/mo fixed electric bill. This year it will be a few dollars more. 2 car Garage heat 55, 3 bedrooms 60, main section of house 70 degrees. No heat in basement, it stays at 60. Coldest winter 55. Baseboard heaters should be installed under windows to prevent condensation.
Baseboard heaters will last forever, no filters, no fan motors, no maintance. Can't say that about the wall heaters you are asking about.
geo

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Russ from MN

12-03-2019 07:13:02




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Geo-TH,In, 12-03-2019 04:48:21  
I agree with baseboard being inexpensive and maintenance free, you have to be a little careful about electrical cord getting too close, I have found out. Geo, do you ever blow the dust out of them? I don't thing vacuuming would get it all out.



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Geo-TH,In

12-03-2019 14:43:57




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Russ from MN, 12-03-2019 07:13:02  
The dust that collects on them is during the summer. The first time you turn then on, self cleaning, poof, gone. I wait until I'm going to be out of the house for a while before I turn them on the first time. Some may argue baseboard heat is the most inefficient way to that.
If you have forced air electric, that more inefficient.
Add up all the expenses of forced air heat, cost, air filters, repairs, life expectancy of furnace or Heat pump. You may rethink baseboard heat. And ask yourself, when do most furnaces need repaired? Hollidays, weekends, coldest day of the winter. Or when you are on vacation and come home to a house with frozen pipes and water damage.

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12-03-2019 04:14:56




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 Re: Electric heaters that can be installed high in reply to Stan in Oly, WA, 12-02-2019 23:05:37  
There are many many many to choose from. Google is your friend.



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