he concept may very well work, but..................(quoted from post at 08:37:52 08/10/19) In the Amish community near here there is a whole field of LP Gas tanks (looks like that, no idea of pressure rating) and I was told they run air compressors like all night to fill the tanks with compressed air so they have sufficient capacity to power their air tools the next work day. I also heard of compressed air storage in huge underground reservoirs.
As an engineer the concept of storing energy appeals to me. It's a matter of the efficiency of the system that matters. I can live full time in my RV in which I use solar panels to charge my battery bank that store the energy for overnight use to power my CPAP, vent fans, water pump, LED lights, and 120 VAC (via Inverter) fridge, works great.
John T A fan of energy storage in general, there are lots of different approaches
(quoted from post at 06:35:56 08/10/19) Do you think this will really work?
compressed air storage
(quoted from post at 10:20:32 08/10/19) A more practical system is a power plant on the shore of Lake Michigan pumps water to a reservoir at a higher elevation and then use it to generate electricity during high demand.
(quoted from post at 06:46:40 08/11/19)His last machine , Big Eureka put out around 7000 times the input.
(quoted from post at 09:46:40 08/11/19) I am sure I will get flamed for this but oh well! Why isn't anyone looking at The Joe Newman motor? His last machine , Big Eureka put out around 7000 times the input. With his health failing he dismantled his machines to keep the power brokers from getting them before he died.
(quoted from post at 10:24:12 08/11/19) RPM at 590 VOLTS
Battery Input Current ............ 10 milliampere
Battery Input Power .............. 6 Watts
Rotor Frictional Losses .......... 200 Watts
RF Current (rms) ................. 500 milliampere
RF Ohmic Losses in Coil .......... 190 Watts
Additional Loads ................. Fluorescent Tubes
Incandescent Bulbs
Fan (belt driven)
The frictional losses are computed from the measured drag coefficient. The ohmic losses are computed from the coil resistance. Without considering the additional loads, it is seen that the output energy of the machine exceeded the input by a factor of 65!
Oscillograph photos show that the current waveform is dominated This is on his 1st prototype. Later machines did much better.
(quoted from post at 11:38:10 08/11/19) That is not true, I worked in that industry.
Costs for energy during high demands can be 100 times the cost of power during low demands.
(quoted from post at 06:59:30 08/11/19) The cost of the power to pump the water into the reservoir is not cheaper at night. Not cheaper at anytime around the clock.
It is pumped at night because that is when the demand for power is low so as not overload the power source.
his has gotten pretty far off topic, but the more I read, the more it sounds like a scheme to separate tax payer from their money. Don't ever expect to see this happen.(quoted from post at 15:50:02 08/11/19)(quoted from post at 06:59:30 08/11/19) The cost of the power to pump the water into the reservoir is not cheaper at night. Not cheaper at anytime around the clock.
It is pumped at night because that is when the demand for power is low so as not overload the power source.
Growing up we had a large water heater in the basement. I remember it sat on the floor and dang well reached to the ceiling. It had a locked box on the side of it that the electric company set the on and off times. During the off time it was not available to heat water. I was told we got a lower rate on power since we used less electricity during the day and more at night. It did not matter to us since it was so large and we always had hot water. It was my understanding it was all about keeping their base generating units operating at peak efficiency. The base units were able to generate electric power at a low cost.
In the case of solar or wind power the economics are likely different. Perhaps at peak power or peak wind you have more power than markets to sell it. Therefore the need for storage. Or the market may pay more for constant power regardless of sun or wind , in that case you need storage to play in the market place.
(quoted from post at 05:54:06 08/12/19) Fair enough, as I can tell you don't have a clue as to what he did.
(quoted from post at 13:45:46 08/12/19) https://www.bing.com/videos/search?
q=Joe+Newmans+Big+Eureka&view=detail&mid=2F89E1CC7492511B73592F89E1CC7492511B7359&FORM=VIRE Just past the
21 minute mark.
(quoted from post at 10:15:37 08/12/19) Please E mail me . Thanks.
(quoted from post at 15:37:29 08/13/19) Mine is open in classic view.
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