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Trucking info...shipping containers

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Brad Buchanan

01-11-2019 15:40:24




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Hey folks.

We are planning a move from the Canadian border to North Carolina and need to move some heavy tools and equipment.

It seems that shipping containers may be the best option for efficiency and security as we make this move.

I estimate what is going to be moved would fit in 2 20' or one 40' container however as this is heavy tools and some serious woodworking equipment I worry that I would exceed the weight limit(?) with one 40' container.

Also options could be buying or leasing the containers (I like the option of unloading them at my leisure) and looking for a local driver to move them with his truck or hiring a company to cover the whole project.

The move is app. 1700 miles one way. Also how important is the weight and balance issue? How much weight is too much for these containers?

Thanks in advance for your time and any answers, opinions or insight on this project.

Brad Buchanan

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Brad Buchanan

01-14-2019 14:27:47




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
Thanks for all the support and information.

I am looking into AFB and actually may see if I can get a box trailer at a half decent price.

Brad Buchanan



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DoubleO7

01-14-2019 13:28:40




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
The two 40 footers I have are the 9.5 foot highcubes.

The week to be favored over the 8 footers.

Anyways, one has payload rating of 61.5k and the other is 55.5k.



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Destroked 450

01-13-2019 07:05:45




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
I've pulled a few containers, mostly 40 footers, my double bunk Pete, trailer chassis and container weighed around 36,000 empty.

For a roll off trailer like Jon f mn uses that empty weight will be closer to 40,000.

Depending on the type of trailer chassis being used about 35- 40,000 is all one can load into a container and get it to axle out properly.

I'm not current with todays bridge laws so the max load may be less. 20 ft containers are under min bridge laws and are limited to a much lower gross weight.

Although some states allow for higher gross weights Federally regulated Interstate travel is limited to 80,000 lbs gross and also have axle weight restrictions.

If you over load the container you'll pay extra pickup and drop-off charges plus you get to unload and reload the container again.

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Jon f mn

01-13-2019 17:33:08




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Destroked 450, 01-13-2019 07:05:45  
20' containers on chassis can haul a little over 50,000 inside. They are legal on bridge laws because the axles slide on those chassis. 40' containers weigh more, so legal limit on them is about 45,000 net wt. We haul a lot of organic and non-gmo soybeans out of north Dakota in 20' containers and the billed load is 50,000 lbs.



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Jon f mn

01-12-2019 18:26:51




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
A container to be shipped rail can hold about 40,000 payload. But you will have to load and unload from a chassis or lift it off. We can hall them with up to 30,000 in them if the heavy end is towards the front. We can set them on the ground and pick them up from the ground. We have trouble with overloading on the trailer tandems. I'm sure my company would sell you one and move it. 20' wind, water rodent tight start at about $1800 and 40' start about $2700. I couldn't guess what they might charge to move one that far.

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504

01-12-2019 18:13:37




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
What you need is a company that will sell you the COEX and drop it at your place, and then take it to a conex rail yard. Railroad it to SC, then have it picked up and trucked to your house. You must have your ducks in a row, because the RR has a time table and they are not waiting for anybody. I have family that will load a trailer on the East cost,ship it to California, load a second trailer and pull it west. He has made a good living with that IH.

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Mike M

01-12-2019 07:12:19




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
Figure all yours costs involved and TIME ! Now then the best method may just be to auction it all off and start "collecting" all over again at the new location !



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DoubleO7

01-12-2019 06:58:46




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
Your not going to find any container hauler that can or will "pickup" a loaded container.

None do a ground to ground haul of a half loaded container let alone a "loaded" one.

You would have to load and unload at a port that handles containers with cranes and forklifts that handle them.



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Jon f mn

01-12-2019 18:29:41




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to DoubleO7, 01-12-2019 06:58:46  
We drop and pick up containers with up to 30k in them.



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d beatty

01-12-2019 01:27:30




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
Have you ever looked into ABF freight long distance moving? They drop a trailer at your place and you load it. When full you call them and they put it in a set of doubles or triples headed to where you are moving and bring trailer to your new home and drop it and you unload it. When empty call them and they pickup empty trailer.



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Moresmoke

01-12-2019 07:32:17




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to d beatty, 01-12-2019 01:27:30  
Good point, I had forgot about ABF. Probably one of the OPs best options if they serve the areas he is dealing with.



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d beatty

01-12-2019 00:55:07




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
I don't know how much is too much weight. But I use to pull 20ft. containers out Clark Equipment loaded with pay loader axles and grossed out anywhere from 42,000 to 45,000 Lbs..



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Nordic

01-11-2019 16:58:20




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
A standard 20' container empty varies between 4600 to about 5000 lbs. as the empty (tare) weight is generally always painted on one of the doors. A standard 40' is about 8200 lbs., the 9'6'' high version is around 8800 lbs. Besides talking to your hauler regarding weight you may want to take into consideration how much you want to spend on the size crane for unloading unless the hauler lets you keep his trailer 'til you're unloaded. When my Dad did a long distance move like that he bought a 40 foot van trailer for a very good price and just hired a truck tractor to pull it. It needs a valid safety inspection to be sure... he later sold it for more than he paid.

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moresmoke

01-11-2019 16:37:45




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
You will be challenged to find a carrier to move containers like that. Typically containers are filled and emptied at a dock while sitting on a chassis.

Iím still in the process of moving about that distance east west along the border. Three loads on the gooseneck with pickup, and two semi loads later, I think one more semi will get it all.

Your lowest cost option is if you can have everything on pallets/skids so it can be loaded into a box trailer, and have someone to load and unload it. The last load I shipped was like this. Had a couple tractors in the front of the trailer, and the pallets to the rear. Trucking co brought me a trailer to load, then held it for a week to give me time to get back to the new place. Tractor with pallet forks, and a pallet jack took all the small stuff off the back. Then had to run into town to a business with a dock and rolled the tractors out.

Next best is a flatbed/step deck for bigger items. They must be able to be strapped/chained down, but everything can be unloaded from the side.

The weight needs to be evenly spread from front to back. Most trucks can handle at least 40,000 lb. Heading to NC, you will be limited to 80,000 gross for the truck.

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Back Forty Bob.

01-11-2019 16:29:53




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
The question may not be so much what the container could hold, but what the empty weight of the truck/
trailer/ container will be. You will also have to factor in the distance between axles / groups. A good ballpark may be 50,000 pounds in the container. With an 80,000 pound gross weight limit.



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Geo-TH,In

01-11-2019 16:25:17




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
Need to look at the weight of a shipping container. I think an empty 20 ft is around 6000# and a 40 ft is around 9000.



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Hobo,NC

01-11-2019 16:20:18




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
I have been looking for a container on cracklist they are going for a tad over 3K :(.... Its possible you could sale it once done with it that's what I would do...

What city are you moving to....



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Brad Buchanan

01-13-2019 15:14:07




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Hobo,NC, 01-11-2019 16:20:18  
We were looking around Scotland Neck.



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grizz02

01-11-2019 16:15:45




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to Brad Buchanan, 01-11-2019 15:40:24  
it depends on the states your having to go through in wa. state truck and container can gross out at 105.500 lbs about 60,000 lbs of product in most states



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jm.

01-12-2019 17:40:30




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 Re: Trucking info...shipping containers in reply to grizz02, 01-11-2019 16:15:45  
East of the Mississippi river will be truck and container no more than 80,000 so about 50,000 in the container more or less..ABF is your best bet for sure.



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