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Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ?

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Ohiohills

10-17-2012 20:07:51




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Perhaps a little OT, but not too far ...

Bought a Wagner Optimus Project Power Painter thinking that would be the best way to get multiple coats of primer and top coat on the rough vertical siding of a small storage shed. I like the Kilz 2 product as a primer, but it is THICK paint out of the can, so I tried to thin it somewhat before spraying. What a PITA .... sprayer just would not do a decent job ... erratic performance, paint pulsed, sprayer just stopped spraying for periods, noisy .... I disassembled and cleaned it multiple times, still no improvement .... tried thinning the Kilz numerous more times, but still no success .... what an awful mess and experience. Very disappointed with this Wagner product. The sprayer will spray plain water just fine and, for the very short periods of time that it did work with paint, I can see it will do the job OK if I can get it to perform reliably, but there is no thinning / viscosity info provided in the instructions nor any decent troubleshooting info that addresses the erratic performance.

Anyone have experience spraying the Kilz 2 product? Any ideas on how to make a Wagner sprayer perform reliably? Any suggestions of another primer that will work OK in a Wagner sprayer.

Any and all help appreciated!

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George Marsh

10-18-2012 12:35:48




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
OHIO,
Check the sprayer, I think there is a small round cylinder shaped filter built in to the handle grip. Either your filter is dirty or the paint is too thinck and can't go through it the filter.

Do you have a diafram or piston pump?
George



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VernMI

10-18-2012 07:10:04




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
If it says Wagner on it run away.



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showcrop

10-18-2012 05:49:25




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
I have a commercial grade sprayer, can't think of the brand. It has both air and a piston pump and it pushes thick paint through the 25 ft tube just fine.



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Stephen Newell

10-18-2012 04:41:43




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
I'm a house painter and use Kilz 2 often however I've never had a Wagner sprayer in my hand. Unless you have a floor model airless sprayer you will have to thin the Kilz to spray it. I kind of consider the Wagner sprayer a toy sprayer so I can't picture being able to use it with the Kilz 2 without thinning it a lot. Primers have a lot of filler making them thick to cover better so it takes a lot of pressure to push it through the gun. A conventional sprayer with a compressor won't be that much better either. It would take a pressure pot with the compressor and sprayer to spray the kilz. Even though, a little thinning would be required.

While on the subject if you are using the kilz to cover a stain the kilz original will usually do better.

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Wile E

10-18-2012 02:16:30




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
I am will Billy on this. The Wagner sprayers are crap. The only way to spray paint is with an AIR powered sprayer. I have used air pressurized cups and tanks, works very well. Splattering the paint on the wall looks like schitt.



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Slowpoke

10-17-2012 22:16:38




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
The problem I find with Kilz2 is that when using a brush, it strings out like bubble gum. I have to hold the brush over the can a second or two to allow the paint to stabilize. Maybe that stringing is causing your paint gun to malfunction. Kilz2 seems too thin out of the container anyway. Also there is no info on the Kilz2 container about proper thining. I have changed to Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 and like it better. I had an old quart of latex paint conditioner and added about 1/2 cup per gallon to the 1-2-3 and Home Depot Glidden 6811 semi-gloss exterior. The paint glides on nicely and pretty much flows together like oil base paint.
So far all work is done with a 3" or 4" brush on redwood siding and eves.

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Billy Shafer

10-17-2012 20:15:50




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 Re: Anyone have experience spraying Kilz 2 ? in reply to Ohiohills, 10-17-2012 20:07:51  
I had one of the Wagner sprayer. Ended up throwing it in the trash.



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