Lincoln Ranger 250

T_Bone

Well-known Member
Hi All,

Well I've had interesting holidays. My new Ranger 250 quit charging the battery at 7hrs on the machine. Ok, no problem as I have too take it too Kohler as Lincoln has two 3yr warranties, Lincoln for the machine problems and Kohler for the engine problems.

Kohler warranty rep, says Lincoln didn't plug in a jones plug completely so it's going to cost me $45 to fix it. Lincoln says ok, and sends me a 50# can of 5P(6010) to replace the $45. I needed a 50# can any way and had my choice of any Lincoln product worth $45. So I figure I'm even with the board.

I get the machine home and now it charges the battery but won't @*&($!g WELD. No spark at the leads of any type. I do have 120/240 generator output at current draw. A week before Christmas so good luck getting parts and employee's taking time off for the holidays.

The engine runs at high idle and will not low idle, so I think maybe it's charging the battery. 1/2hr latter and still no spark, so back to a Lincoln rep for repair. The Lincoln rep says "bring it in today and I'll take a look". I can't beat that service.

I found out that when/if the armature oxidizes, then that's my repair cost as Lincoln says that's a owners maintenance problem. Tech cleans the armature face with a stone while the machine is running. Still no out put at the leads. That didn't surprise me as we had 120/240 output so the generator has to be working. If I had no 120/240 output then this maybe would have worked. Brushes are a ware item but were good at only 7hrs.

Tech say's it's going to be a couple days as he doesn't have more time to look at the machine right then. I call in 3days and the Tech says, Steve went on vacation until after the first of the year and he'll take a quick look at the machine. Tech needs to order a new relay from Lincoln.

That didn't work so now He needs a new circuit board, the chopper output board. The chopper board controls ALL output functions of the machine, both the generator and weld outputs.

Tech receives the new chopper board and still no output, so the Tech gets to looking future into the problem and spots the Tweeco twist lock connectors shorting too the case as the screws had vibrated out to ground upon the case.

On any Lincoln machine with a chopper circuit, if at any time the output leads become shorted, then the chopper see's this short, and will shut down current output to the welding leads "upon" machine start up. This is a standard Lincoln circuit design function.

Remove the short and all is well, no harm done to the machine. My cost, $217/otd but the Lincoln Santa Clause came thru once again, no cost too me. All it took was a simple phone call too Lincoln before I picked up the machine today.

Lincoln also told me that if you can work on high voltage circuits, they will tell you over the phone of what to check on a dead machine, [b:7e667dd741]no charge[/b:7e667dd741]. Wow, what a service!

All I can say is that chopper technology is one very smooth stable arc. I would put my Ranger 250 up there ahead of a old SA-200, the best known arc stability in the welding world. Sure makes me wonder how the new "pipeliners" preform???

T_Bone
 
My former neighbor did a lot of pipeline welding. He bought a new 300 classic diesel but said his old rebuilt 1956 stubby was a better pipeline welder with 6010. The Miller inverters have a really smooth arc as well but I like a conventional MIG machine better. My friend has a Ranger 305G and it has adustable arc settings and was very smooth when I tried it out. Dave
 
Lincoln also told me that if you can work on high voltage circuits, they will tell you over the phone of what to check on a dead machine, no charge. Wow, what a service!

Sounds like they need to provide the same diagnosing help to their techs at the dealers....



:wink:
 
I bought one of the first Ranger 250's that came out a few years back. The chopper board went out on it at 8 hours. They replaced it, the machine now has close to 2000 hrs on it now and has not missed a beat.I have a suitcase mig attachment I use on it and also a carbon arc. I also have 2 Millers. I wouldn't trade the Lincoln for both millers
 
things happen to machines, that is just a fact. But I have never had as good a service as I have gotten from Lincoln. And my welder is a 1985 SA-200. Glad to hear that the 250 is a good machine. I have had my eye on them but never seem to have the extra $. If I got one I would get the kit to convert it to propane and convert it from new.
 
I also bought a first generation 250, and it lost welding output early in life ( I don't know exactly when, as it was doing a lot of generating - then I needed to weld something and it wouldn't). Took it in to the repair facility, sat around for a few hours while various boards were swapped, gave up and went on my way, eventually (after they ordered one in) the main board was swapped out, that fixed it. Now that it's well beyond warrantee, I hope it stays fixed.
 

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