Weighing parts

Jgentry88

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First first here but I ve been trolling for awhile. I was wondering what kind of scale some of y all might use to weight parts that you remove or install. Also i plan on building a light hot farm tractor and would a lot of the advice from antique pullers apply? Thanks.
 
(quoted from post at 20:43:20 07/18/22) First first here but I ve been trolling for awhile. I was wondering what kind of scale some of y all might use to weight parts that you remove or install. Also i plan on building a light hot farm tractor and would a lot of the advice from antique pullers apply? Thanks.

How light are you talking and turboed or no.
 
turbo or no. How about rpm. Are you limited or no. If no rpm limit and no turbo I would definitely go with a gas motor. If turboed defintely a diesel and if rpm
limited I think I would also go diesel. Remember you need to start with something that has pretty big cubes to start with. My son pulls a 4010 and the other night
he pulled against john deere Gs and a 70 that were up around 1100 cu inches.
 

Unless you were going to put a dt466 in it then you are headed in the right direction. Not sure if your rules require the original block.
 
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Unless you were going to put a dt466 in it then you are headed in the right direction. Not sure if your rules require the original block.

Yes I was planning on 466 actually.
 
JUst be prepared to fork out the cash. Depending on how serious you want to get, A good turbo and injection pump could eat up $10,000 real quick and then you
still need to build the engine, clutch, transmission, differential, tires and rims. A good clutch that will hold a 466 will cost every bit of 4,000.
 
(quoted from post at 07:05:42 07/19/22) JUst be prepared to fork out the cash. Depending on how serious you want to get, A good turbo and injection pump could eat up $10,000 real quick and then you
still need to build the engine, clutch, transmission, differential, tires and rims. A good clutch that will hold a 466 will cost every bit of 4,000.

I ve noticed it s going to cost a lot. I really enjoy fabricating so I ll get some enjoyment from the build I hope. And I hope I can meet helpful people along the way.
 
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I built this one but it pulls in 7700 classic superstock class.
 
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I built this one but it pulls in 7700 classic superstock class.

Nice! Maybe I can message you if I have a question I can t find an answer to!
 
I am a machinist so I do a little machining for pulling tractors sometimes. I work a regular job but right now I am off work. I mashed my finger. My email is
[email protected]. Id be happy to answer questions. Im not real familiar with hot farm but I do see the ones around here pulling.
 

I made some transmission gears for a farmall 400 which almost the same as a 560. This tractor has a v8 engine in it. He had put in a torque eliminator but was having trouble breaking the constant mesh gears in the transmission. If I were you, I would get a straight shaft that goes from the clutch clear back to the constant mesh gear. The constant mesh gear will be made on the end of the shaft and it will be much wider than the stock one. I think you can buy them from Atlas Tractor. I think its in Minnesota. The torque and torque eliminator in a 560 just wont hold up to a 466.
 
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Also can a set of IH 9 hole dual wheels be used in place of the factory wheels?

Yes if you have hubs to fit your tractor. I know m&W used to make them. Most pulling tractors today have steel weld on hubs. The cast iron hubs have been known to break on pulling tractors but as long as they will let you run them I think you would be safe at 6200 lbs. Its when you get up around 12,500 where you start having troubles. I believe some guys are making steel clamp on hubs also. I made a set for my sons 4010 that he pulls in the stock class.

This post was edited by Jim Pollock on 07/19/2022 at 06:51 pm.
 

One thing about duals is the center is usually all to one side. Usually you like the centers to be more in the center of the rim but they can work.
 

You can buy pressed steel wheels new. You can also buy just the center and you could weld it into your rims if they are wide enough but depending on what size tire you are going to run, they probably are not. You can even cut the centers out and move them in dual rims but its a little work. Ive done it. You can even cut your old rims all the way around and weld a steel ring in them to widen them out. Ive done that too. Maybe you are not even going to run 38" tires. I really dont know. You could also buy aluminum rims. They only cost about 3 or 4 grand. lol
 



I used a scale that you hang the whatever from. 5500 hot farm pullers make serious HP. Are you planning on a double disc clutch?
 



I used a scale that you hang the whatever from. 5500 hot farm pullers make serious HP. Are you planning on a double disc clutch?
 



I used a scale that you hang the whatever from. 5500 hot farm pullers make serious HP. Are you planning on a double disc clutch?
 
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I used a scale that you hang the whatever from. 5500 hot farm pullers make serious HP. Are you planning on a double disc clutch?

I figured a double disc clutch and possibly bigger diameter. Thanks for the scale idea!
 
(quoted from post at 18:17:25 07/19/22)
Also can a set of IH 9 hole dual wheels be used in place of the factory wheels?


I have taken 16 inch dual wheels and cut them in two and welded in bands to bring them out to twenty inch. I have also bought new Unvertherth rims and cut the centers out in order to adjust the outset as Jim posted.
 
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I built this one but it pulls in 7700 classic superstock class.

Nice! Maybe I can message you if I have a question I can t find an answer to!

I was looking at some hitch designs and I m going to give it a try. What size plate are people using? Safety concerns are not something I want to guess at.
 
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I used a scale that you hang the whatever from. 5500 hot farm pullers make serious HP. Are you planning on a double disc clutch?

I figured a double disc clutch and possibly bigger diameter. Thanks for the scale idea!

I would use atleast a 3 disk clutch. Ours has 4 disks
 
Our clutch has weights and springs. The springs work like a regular clutch and the weights work like a centrfigal clutch. The higher it revs, the harder it pushes on the disks.

This post was edited by Jim Pollock on 07/24/2022 at 08:00 am.
 
If you are going to pull with ntpa, you will have to follow their rules. Most tractors today have a hitch like this. These you can buy from ace chassis.
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