Help with a Super C

RGMartin

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My son(14 years old) has decided that he wants to pull his Super C at the local antique tractor show next weekend. I know nothing about tractor pulling, other than watching it a few times.

a packed dirt track with a very slight uphill grade.


I haven't run it across the scale yet, but I expect it to be too heavy for 3000#, probably in 3500.

It is a good running tractor, 12.4-36 Firestone F&R at 75% tread.

No rear weights, only a splash of calcium left in the rears(drained what I could without breaking them down)

How much tire pressure? Any other tricks? Where should I add the weight to bring it to 3500?
 
you should have weighed it first before removing fluid. u need it at the top end of weight class, with driver on it. fluid is the best weight! if need be then use wheel weights. 6 lbs of air is lots. use low gear. have it properly tuned up. learn from there in the pulling. plus you need drawbar set to spec's, usually 18"
 
Good advice except fluid is poor weight. Keepes tire from contouring to ground. Suitcase weights are best. You can move them easily.
 

search on line to see if you can find the club that runs the pull and download the rules. Or see if you can find someone who pulls there. Hitch height limit is usually 20 inches. removing the CaCL is good. You may be able to remove the hydraulic pump. That is often done on the old Farmalls. A C will be underpowered in anything over 3500 lb. class. Wheelie bars could be required. Some weight racks can be big help to get the weight where you need it front or back. You want as much as you can in the back without your front end coming up earlier than the other guys' do.
 
you guys obviously have a hate for fluid. I pulled both ways and fluid is the answer for me. plus this is an antique tractor pull, how do wheelie bars fit in?plus it wont even get the front off the ground to require them. stock is stock, how can u have suitcase weights on a little tractor that had no such thing. I out pull case 930's, j.d. 830's oliver 99's with my wd40. I have fluid in it too.
 
(quoted from post at 20:27:57 07/19/19) you guys obviously have a hate for fluid. I pulled both ways and fluid is the answer for me. plus this is an antique tractor pull, how do wheelie bars fit in?plus it wont even get the front off the ground to require them. stock is stock, how can u have suitcase weights on a little tractor that had no such thing. I out pull case 930's, j.d. 830's oliver 99's with my wd40. I have fluid in it too.

Rustred I have already answered your questions in my post. LOOK AT THE RULES WHERE INTENDING TO PULL.
 
I did , it tells me you have pulled nothing. just gave info that don't apply to antique stock tractor pulling. just got home from a pull tonight. ooh and drawbar height is 18".
 
(quoted from post at 20:48:27 07/21/19) I did , it tells me you have pulled nothing. just gave info that don't apply to antique stock tractor pulling. just got home from a pull tonight. ooh and drawbar height is 18".

Rust, I started pulling in 1998 and have been ever since going to as many as 16 events per year in four states, with two tractors at most of them, although in the last few years I have tapered off a little. We used to get a number of out of the field tractors that would have had loaded tires, but they are very rare now. You may get a newby once every few years with loaded tires, but you are the only veteran to ever advise a newby to do it. One club had a lower drawbar height, 18 or 19 inches, but they came up to twenty inches maybe 15 years ago.
 
pulls limit is 18".

The axle mounted bar on the tractor is 16".

I have a swinging drawbar for it that should be a bit higher, and drop some weight, hope to investigate as time permits.
 
He took it down the track last night for the first time. Ended up getting it down to 3000# by swapping drawbars and stripping everything he didn't need(mounting bolts, mounting brackets etc). He was only 5 feet behind the class leader, ended up spinning out in a soft spot.

Other son took a David Brown 900, only diesel there last night in the light classes. Was 1st to go, had an OK pull, then had to pull again because they decided to take weight out of the sled because it stopped the first couple tractors too quickly. Only went half as far the second time, started in a mud hole and pretty much stayed there.

All in all, seems like they had fun.
 
(quoted from post at 05:07:17 07/26/19) He took it down the track last night for the first time. Ended up getting it down to 3000# by swapping drawbars and stripping everything he didn't need(mounting bolts, mounting brackets etc). He was only 5 feet behind the class leader, ended up spinning out in a soft spot.

Other son took a David Brown 900, only diesel there last night in the light classes. Was 1st to go, had an OK pull, then had to pull again because they decided to take weight out of the sled because it stopped the first couple tractors too quickly. Only went half as far the second time, started in a mud hole and pretty much stayed there.

All in all, seems like they had fun.


Give them both a pat on the back for me!! Chances are the 900 is heavy on the front. Did he enter in 4,000 lb?
 
Had to go to 4500. Was 4350 when we got there, no 4000# class. Put 2 70# weights on the front wheels to get him to 4500, but it was pretty clear that was the wrong choice. For Saturday going to pull the wheel weights off and put 150# of lead in the empty battery box under the seat.
 
(quoted from post at 11:25:56 07/26/19) Had to go to 4500. Was 4350 when we got there, no 4000# class. Put 2 70# weights on the front wheels to get him to 4500, but it was pretty clear that was the wrong choice. For Saturday going to pull the wheel weights off and put 150# of lead in the empty battery box under the seat.

Something else that you can do RG, is to find out how far back the hitch point is allowed to be and put it out as far as you can depending on holes in the drawbar. That will give you more draft from the sled. That helps when you are nose heavy.
 

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