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Farmall M m

01-13-2010 11:23:56




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Rumor has it that you are building and engine For Thompsons M. All that guy does it spend more money every year and is ruining the sport. Is this true.




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mlpankey

01-14-2010 18:58:36




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
I usually tell what we tried and worked on my tractor thats a couple of years old what we try currently isnt proved or disproved so I wouldnt tell it for two reasons one it could not work and would be wrong and incorrect information two if it did work I would like to think I could benefit a while from the hard work involved in finding a advantage . As for my thoughts on hard work will what I thought was lite work at 20 years of age has become more towards hard work on the scale at age fourty . Never the less my back and knees and feet hurt just the same but with my descision to become union has giving me the funds to purchase a matress that a few hours of rest in a night cures the pains for 6 or so of the 8 to 10 hour work days. I beleive eveyone is entitle to their opinions and descisions thats what makes us fall under a term as individual. single front wheel, mopower I have enjoyed conversing tractor with you guys and will continue I would also like to coverse with garry and others one day .
everything that comes my way comes the hard way.mlpankey "One mans magic is another mans engineering" robert heinlein

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F-350

01-14-2010 14:37:02




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
Pull the 3 MPH class if thats all you can afford.Some can afford more.For years I have pulled in classes ranging from 3 mph to 10 mph.

I have saved my money up and this year I'll be moving up to a state level SS tractor that will come down the track 22-25 mph.I'll have less in it than many classic and antique pullers.



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Kevin Birdsong

01-14-2010 20:22:40




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to F-350, 01-14-2010 14:37:02  
Sorry Mr. Barker for opening a can of worms. I was just impressed with your work and everyone wants to pick it apart, like something was wrong with Trevors motor before! Just to let you people know (Trevor won the king of the hill in Tuinca at an idle)i.e.torque. But dont let it fool you it will run faster than 5mph!!!



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TWL

01-15-2010 07:11:09




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Kevin Birdsong, 01-14-2010 20:22:40  
The reason I asked about it was I use to own the tractor,I sold it to Trevor.I was curious if something happened to the engine.



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Kevin Birdsong

01-15-2010 21:27:56




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to TWL, 01-15-2010 07:11:09  
ITrevor and Donnie are good friends of mine and my dads, I have heard a lot about Gary Baker over the years and finally, I got to meeet him in Tuinca,and that is a honor!He takes pride in his work and for this day and time that is rare!I wish everyone would love this sport like i do. This sport is antique pulling, its not for money,it is for (FUN). If you are that serious and have that muuch money,then you need to move to the next level!I pull pull a 460 and i cant afford a motor from Gary, but I respect his work.

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red pullen

01-15-2010 09:58:49




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to TWL, 01-15-2010 07:11:09  
is trevor and donnie gilkey related and if so do they pull the same tractor or seperate units



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Gary Baker

01-15-2010 12:51:28




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to red pullen, 01-15-2010 09:58:49  
Trevor is Donnie Gilkey's son. They both pull Farmall M's.



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red pullen

01-16-2010 03:42:12




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Gary Baker, 01-15-2010 12:51:28  
are both of their motors from your shop gary ?



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Gary Baker

01-16-2010 05:47:50




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to red pullen, 01-16-2010 03:42:12  
No, just Trevors.



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jd b puller

01-16-2010 07:21:43




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Gary Baker, 01-16-2010 05:47:50  
Gary, if you get a minute, please give me a call or e-mail. i have some things to run by you.

Thanks
919-605-6040



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Kevin Birdsong

01-14-2010 20:22:02




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to F-350, 01-14-2010 14:37:02  
Sorry Mr. Barker for opening a can of worms. I was just impressed with your work and everyone wants to pick it apart, like something was wrong with Trevors motor before! Just to let you people know (Trevor won the king of the hill in Tuinca at an idle)i.e.torque. But dont let it fool you it will run faster than 5mph!!!



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101 Puller

01-14-2010 13:42:52




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
Its that time of the year, for the bored and beat up pullers from this past year! So Mr Farmall M whats your point, this is why I don't post on here as I once did. There was a good group that had some good discussions and could swap good ideas. There are some good old boy's on this forum that can build some bad azz engines!



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LCB

01-14-2010 09:02:42




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
I worked I in a none union factory for 20 years and they paid well and had good benfits and 401K but in my opoion they done this becuse they did not want to deal with a union.I think if we did not have unions we all would be working for minum wages if we had minum wages other wise would be worse yet.I know unions have there prolems but I think they are the reason we have the good working enviorment that we all enjoy. There will always be people that have more money then others and people who have it that perfere to hang to some it for there retirement so thay can enjoy it.

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Augie

01-13-2010 20:43:23




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
Yeah right after they make a class for crybaby whiners. :roll:



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happy grandad puller

01-13-2010 18:54:42




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
so what is it to you what dave spends i going to spend more money on two of mine sunds like you are jeales they oh saying is if you cant keep up with big doges get off the porch



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GMASTER

02-01-2010 21:01:37




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to happy grandad puller, 01-13-2010 18:54:42  
What kind of ebonics do you speak----seems you misspell 4 or 5 words everytime you type. and it,s --- " IF YOU CAN"T RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS, STAY ON THE PORCH." Nothing personal,just type slower,so your brain keeps up.You make Truckers look dumb. Can"t spell, and don"t know #1 of the Truckers Commandments.



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farmall 450

01-13-2010 19:27:27




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to happy grandad puller, 01-13-2010 18:54:42  
well maybe they should make a class for people with unlimited cash supply.



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Kevin Birdsong

01-13-2010 17:31:36




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
Congratulations Mr. Baker on the motor you built Trevor Gilkey and his win in Tunica! Impressive!!!!



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TWL

01-14-2010 11:08:37




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Kevin Birdsong, 01-13-2010 17:31:36  
Was something wrong with the engine that was previously in Trevors tractor?



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Gary Baker

01-14-2010 12:08:09




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to TWL, 01-14-2010 11:08:37  
No, Trevor traded it in



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Gary Baker

01-13-2010 15:38:02




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
To whom it my concern. Dave Thompson Jr. is a friend of mine who has a Marlot built Farmall M, which runs very well. I did not have anything to do with Daves tractor, or am I building a new engine for him. Dave recently came to my shop with a friend of his who I am working on a head for. Dave was wanting to see my shop so he rode along. I hope this clears things up.



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5 Star General

01-14-2010 15:07:47




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Gary Baker, 01-13-2010 15:38:02  
I think of Gary Baker as a Farmall Engine Builder who is willing to help anyone, anytime with any color of tractor. Has helped me on numerous occasions. Thanks, Gary. Art & Randy



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Jim Johnson

01-14-2010 18:55:50




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to 5 Star General, 01-14-2010 15:07:47  
I second what Art said. Gary is one of the best guys around, bar nun.

Jim



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LCB

01-13-2010 15:29:35




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
I found out in late 50s the more you spend the faster you go when I used to drag race. Just be glad that the antique pulling tractors have speed limets so low dollor tractors have juist as good of a chance as big horse power tractors.



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Mopower

01-13-2010 12:22:36




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
The ever increasing number of do-gooders that complain about how free people choose to spend their time and money has become less of a nuisance and more of a danger these days. I suppose you think there ought to be a new rule or law. I hope this rumor is true. Dave and Gary are fine individuals. Their participation has made the sport just that much better, even for me and my heap of rust. Whatever Dave decides to do, it won't affect the length of your pull.

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SingleFrontWheel

01-13-2010 12:15:00




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Farmall M m, 01-13-2010 11:23:56  
Last time I checked it was still a free country, and there was nowhere in the rules was there cap on spending. Go back to the union picket line where you came from.



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lmbky

01-13-2010 15:56:55




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to SingleFrontWheel, 01-13-2010 12:15:00  
I would like to ask what kind of anwser is go back to your union picket line Im a card carring union man and very proud of it. If you think the government is a mess try working for nonunion companies like Enron. All kinds of people are at fault, not just union people.



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dboll

01-13-2010 18:32:39




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to lmbky, 01-13-2010 15:56:55  
I worked for Enron in the wind division until they went broke and GE bought the wind division. We didn't get shafted like other Enron employees. I have no complaints. It's about supply and demand. If someone wants a big engine people like Gary are going to supply it. As for the union they have out grown their usefullness. Lots of people doing more work for less money. I see them as a big part of the downfall of US mnufacturing.

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lmbky

01-13-2010 16:48:18




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to lmbky, 01-13-2010 15:56:55  
Simple minded, would be the word best for your thougts next you would say all the problems started with union members with the economy, and that all the mortgage and credit problems are based on union people and i'd have to guess also that george isn't to blame.You should stop wasting your time on here and tune into Rush for some more entertainment.



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singlefrontwheel

01-13-2010 17:16:31




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to lmbky, 01-13-2010 16:48:18  
I concur. I am simple minded, which probably helps me sort through the tangle of tales and see things for what they are. BTW, I think union members are linked to global warming too. Even Credit Union Members..DAMN those peole with money! A holes got their education and figured out how to make it work! I would write more, but I cant watch Glenn Beck and type at the same time. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

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singlefrontwheel

01-13-2010 16:32:16




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to lmbky, 01-13-2010 15:56:55  
Yep, there are lots of lousy people everywhere. I guess I am just used to the general UAW mentality up here, that helped ruin the state (Mich). If they dont have it, its fair, nor should it be allowed. I'm sorry, I'll exclude all proud card carrying Kentuckians from my comments, so they do not become overshadowed by my displeasure for living in a state controlled and ruined by lazy, greedy organization. Enron is agood example of a few people screwing an organization. The Mich UAW is a good example of an organization screwing millions.

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dblair

01-13-2010 15:47:42




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to SingleFrontWheel, 01-13-2010 12:15:00  
It appears that you Gary have someone stalking your shop . is this weird or is this a normal syndrome for the closed in spaces of winter. in another post someone was stalking ChadS.



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Dave Thompson jr

01-13-2010 18:21:16




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to dblair, 01-13-2010 15:47:42  
Nobody is stalking Garys shop. Paul Marlatt and Gary Baker are the best Farmall engine builders around just look at the pulls. We took a head off of a tractor that Gary built a short block a couple of years ago. He can do some work to it and make it run good. While I was there I looked at his shop and he showed me some of his work. It was very impressive. Gary did not have to show me his engines or his shop, I respect that most people keep secrets. Gary is an Honest Man and I would recommend him to anyone for a good engine. As far as the Union comments I think we need more of them. With a union we have insurance and a pension. With out one a company can take benefits at any time with out the employee knowing it.

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lmbky

01-13-2010 16:02:11




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to dblair, 01-13-2010 15:47:42  
Wish everyone would put more thought into there own tractors and less on everyone elses. I see tractors at pulls all the time that are stretched on rules but no one will say anything till later, then they will cry about why they should have won. the truth is they dont want anyone saying anything about ther tractor.



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singlefrontwheel

01-13-2010 16:35:03




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to lmbky, 01-13-2010 16:02:11  
If this guy put half the effort into his own tractor instead of dogging Thompson, he might actually end up with something..Its a pity what some people waste..



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mlpankey

01-13-2010 17:20:20




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to singlefrontwheel, 01-13-2010 16:35:03  
I consider my friendship well with some of the ones who posted here and hope that they continue and even more friendhips with others are built. For the record I have been union since 1995 and live better everyday for the making the descision



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SingleFrontWheel

01-14-2010 04:48:48




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to mlpankey, 01-13-2010 17:20:20  
You know, Mitch, I see where there were needs, and to a little extent, still are needs for a union. By no means to I ever imply that ALL UNION WORKERS are bad. That would be foolish and imprudent on my behalf. However, as Doug said, I think that they HAVE outlived their usefullness. The organization of workers and pensions does not bother me as much as the political impact the "union" has had on us. MY observation of "the union" stems from my michigan view. I have never seen so many wasteful, ingrateful, LOSERS who can't seem to get fired and still recieve 4x what they are really worth. Now, OBVIOUSLY, not EVERYONE is like that. I have friends in the union. I am friends with you, and you are in the union. I dont expect people to go jobless for avoiding a union shop. However, there are bad apples who are ruining the WHOLE lot, And I guess that would be the card carriers responsibility. And judging by the corruption I have seem, there are alot of SOMEONES not doing their jobs. I'm not saying you, nor Dave, nor LMBky (because he is a red blooded flag waiving card carrier) but someone(s) letting things get a little carried away. Its a touchy subject. But, its also a semi free world. Are you ever going to torque those head bolts down and fire up?

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Going to Blow

01-14-2010 08:44:11




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to SingleFrontWheel, 01-14-2010 04:48:48  
Video of a progressive die in operation in a non-union Chinese shop Link



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Mopower

01-14-2010 14:15:16




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Going to Blow, 01-14-2010 08:44:11  
Hmmm, the Chinese. Biggest collectivist group of all. Don't see many good tractors coming out of China.



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Mopower

01-13-2010 17:41:41




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to mlpankey, 01-13-2010 17:20:20  
Hey Mitch. Both you and Dave Thompson Jr. called me after my accident and made my dark day a tad better. I really appreciated that. I was a UAW member for a short stint as are many of my friends. Not all of us have a choice but most of my friends are or have been. I currently work for Denso, a non-union auto company. I love it there and hope to use some of their parts for my new puller tractor. The only issue I have is folks that think they are making things better off by making some people worse off. I don't see it as often as I used to in tractor pulling.

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lmbky

01-14-2010 16:04:02




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 Re: Gary Baker in reply to Mopower, 01-13-2010 17:41:41  
been a union member for 14yrs and had good and bad days, worked for nonunion the same could always find some bad apples, point being dont critisize a union for the bad apples and as long as we have rules in pulling may the best man win cant argue about how a man saves or spends his money. As all of use know today we face tough times and at the end of the month being laid of to foreign competition wont help, but our union (workers)doubled up jobs and took every consesion to make the plant survive,so this proud card carrying member can only say lets do somthing american help stop over sea job losesby buying american.

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