Majic paint on a Farmall Cub?

Lahoskian

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Hello, newbie here. We have a 1957 Farmall Cub in need of a new
paint job. I stumbled upon a brand called Majic Tractor, Truck and
Implement Enamel tractor paint. I read reviews that had good and
bad things. I noticed people saying the paint fades very quickly.
Could this just be because it is not covered well and sitting outdoor?
We keep ours in a barn obviously, so will this prevent it from fading?
Also, I read reviews say it takes forever to dry, and all I can think is
that they aren?t mixing the paint right and letting it dry when it?s too
humid out.


Our plan is to degrease it, power wash it, palm sand it, spray on the
majic red oxide primer, and then paint it.

We also plan on putting the Majic Clear Coat over it, so I would
believe it helps with the fading of the paint.

I watched Guy Fitzgerald?s video of him painting his Ford 841,
and when he brought it out, it looked stunning.

So please tell me how this Majic T,T &I is and if it?s really worth
buying. Also the majic clear coat. Thanks in advance!


Lahoskian

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I wouldnt use it, I would get an automotive acrylic enamel. Its a longer lasting paint especially if you use a hardener. Keep in mind that you need a air fed respirator when using hardener.
 
It's a lot of work to paint a tractor. As much work as it is you would be better off using an automotive paint. It would last more than twice the time an alkyd enamel would last. Then Majic has a poor reputation. If you are going to use an alkyd at least get a better one. The Rustoleum Farm and Implement paint would hold up better.
 

If you are going to just take a couple hours and clean it up and shoot it Majic would be a good choice. If you are going to put some time into cleaning it good, removing all loose paint, and applying a good primer, it would be a real shame to put cheap paint that you will just need to remove after three years.
 
A clear coat would help with UV protection until it starts to peal. Sometime look at cars when you go to the store and notice all the cars with the clear coat lifting. It's mainly due to the way they put the clear coat over the top of the base coat without sanding the base coat first. If you are going to use a clear thoroughly sand the base coat with 320 grit paper.

Personally I don't like putting a clear coat over a single stage paint. It gives a depth to the finish that makes it more difficult to touch up. If there was only a single stage paint there if you get a gouge in the paint you can fill the void with bondo, prime the spot and touch up the spot. Once dry the spot can be compounded to blend in. With the clear coat you can't blend in the spot very easily so you end up having to repaint the entire area.
 
there are several mail order paint companys- Kirker is one - automotive quality acrylics , urethanes etc. Prices are more than fair and waybelow local auto paint stores. Farmall Red, look at paint charts and pick closest. the tractor store paints are no longer controlled to be accurate to original colors. I think they have a IH paint. not sure, but several reds. Ihave used and readilly reccommend.
 
(quoted from post at 22:44:46 09/25/19) Should the paint fade if it is going to be kept in our barn and also being tarped?

I don't recommend using it (on anything). Plain and Simple. Take it back and get your money back If you've already bought it. If you want to go the "cheaper" route, just buy a gallon of it from CNH dealer......about $65. It is quality stuff for the price and is the correct color. Here is a Farmall 140 I painted with it a few months ago.


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RTR, every month we see a post here about how red fades out. Your implement paint looks great in your pics. How long is it going to last?


Here is a pic of my Ford that I painted 7 years ago with cheap automotive paint:


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Here is my friend's H that the local FFA restored for him a few years ago:


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You can see that the primer is holding up well, and where protected by decals the implement paint has held up well.



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I would NEVER use majic, huge difference getting the paint from IH, then next step up is automotive paint.
 
The paint color has a lot to do with fading. The color red is most prone to it. The type of paint also affects the fading. Automotive paints will remain colorfast for a lot longer. Then you can use alkyd paints from different places and have different results. For example the first time I painted a little Kubota tractor I didn't want to spend much on the paint so I used Valspar Tractor and Implememt paint on it which is an alkyd enamel. Since Kubota is orange half the color is red and you could almost see it fading daily. By the time the paint job was a year old it was peach colored instead of orange before it stopped fading. Then I did a lot of repair work on the tractor so I decided to paint it again. This time I used Rustoleum tractor and implement paint on it which is also an alkyd enamel. That was ten years ago and the paint has faded so little you couldn't tell it unless you tried to touch it up with the same paint. I think the only way I could have only done better with automotive paint. Some paints are just better than others and until you try it you never know. If you can keep the tractor inside or covered when you aren't using it that would certainly help.
 
I use CNH (2150) red paint and have been very satisfied with it!! My tractors are not working tractors and set inside when not at a show!!! I do use a hardener in my paint ( I do have a supplied air system also, a MUST when using a hardener)!! I painted this Cub this spring with the CNH 2150!!!
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You can do what you want to, doesnt matter to me. I will say this though, you can do all the work to get it ready to paint once, or twice. The decision is yours. You could just do it in the Tragic now, and in a few years say its a breast cancer awareness tractor. (Just kidding) My first restoration many years ago was done with spray cans that wasnt even IH red.
 
I also have a Case tractor and when I went to paint it I went to the CNH dealer in my town and they said they only get paint every six months and I would have to wait until then to get it so I went to NAPA and got Nason. I never got the chance to try CNH paint.
 
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RTR, every month we see a post here about how red fades out. Your implement paint looks great in your pics. How long is it going to last?


Here is a pic of my Ford that I painted 7 years ago with cheap automotive paint:


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Here is my friend's H that the local FFA restored for him a few years ago:


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You can see that the primer is holding up well, and where protected by decals the implement paint has held up well.



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The CaseIH dealer paint is what I'd call "top of the line in the worst type of paint" so to speak. It does hold up quite well for what it is. Far beyond Majics and Rustoleums.

A crappy primer will give you just as much issue with topcoat durability as the topcoat itself. I have a project where I finished up with Rustoleum primer and these areas did not hold up as well after even a year.

What paint did they use on that H, and what does "a few years" mean to you? That looks like a spray paint job, at best.
 

Totally agree with this. I have had the chips from both sitting around for months and have been "too busy" to sprayout a can from Case IH to see how close one matches.
 
(quoted from post at 05:53:55 09/26/19)
RTR, every month we see a post here about how red fades out. Your implement paint looks great in your pics. How long is it going to last?

This is the 2150 red from CNH. It is the top of the line of the "cheaper" paints before going to automotive. I have used CNH paint, Valspar Paint, and Automotive paint. Never had a problem with any of those. I've seen the cheap Majic paint fade and never harden up like it should, but I haven't used it myself. I would not recommend anything but CNH paint since it is a good affordable choice.
 
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(quoted from post at 05:53:55 09/26/19)
RTR, every month we see a post here about how red fades out. Your implement paint looks great in your pics. How long is it going to last?

This is the 2150 red from CNH. It is the top of the line of the "cheaper" paints before going to automotive. I have used CNH paint, Valspar Paint, and Automotive paint. Never had a problem with any of those. I've seen the cheap Majic paint fade and never harden up like it should, but I haven't used it myself. I would not recommend anything but CNH paint since it is a good affordable choice.

The "restoration series" paint Valspar has at TSC has always caused pretty good reviews, but I believe they have a cheaper line that muddies this quite a bit. Just like so many other companies (Van Sickle being one).

Showcrop posts that picture of the H out in the weeds about weekly but I don't recall ever seeing any specifics on it. I have a plow that has sat outside since being painted with dealer alkyd paint 10 years ago now, and it does NOT look like that. Although, admittedly, I consider about 15 years about the limit on alkyd for a working machine. This to me means "chalked up and thin" not "rusted out heap of iron."
 
I have used around 15 gallon of the Majic paint over the past 25 years. The only problem I have had is the fading. My tractors never set inside. If you want to make it look like new and not fade it would not be a good choice. If you want to keep the rust off it works good for that. I have an Allis B that has set in the back yard for at least 15 years without moving and has no peeling. I have painted my Farmall C twice since I bought it 17 years ago and it is faded back more than the Allis orange has.
 
Generally with paint the fading is an indication the surface coat of paint is breaking down. When this happens the surface usually gets chalky which in turn tends to allow water to penetrate the finish. Depending on how many coats of finish you have it's possible for water to get through the finish and allow the metal to rust underneath the paint without any indication there is a problem there.
 
You can come by and look at my Super C,Majic paint is mostly gone and it has been clear coated. I sold my 504 painted by the dealer using IH2150. I talked to the guy who painted it and he said it was straight from the can. It was 15 years old paint and look like new when I let it go. Most of the time it sat outside.
 
In 1998 I painted my Farmall 350 with Rustoleum IH Red. The paint looked very good for the first 13 years as the tractor was used very little and spent a lot of time in an enclosed shed. The last 7 years the tractor has seen a LOT of summer work (hay) and sits under a roof but in an open sided shed. The paint has faded noticeable - still looks OK - but definitely nowhere near what it had looked like.
 

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