(quoted from post at 17:22:44 01/15/19) any of y'all ever use Van Sickle paint?
pro's and com's welcome
bass
(quoted from post at 09:34:29 01/16/19) used it once. never again. it's junk.
(quoted from post at 21:36:14 01/16/19) If you want a paint that is really good use a single stage urethane, the gloss is long lasting and chemical resistant . These alkyd and acrylic enamels are old technology.
(quoted from post at 11:16:09 01/17/19)(quoted from post at 21:36:14 01/16/19) If you want a paint that is really good use a single stage urethane, the gloss is long lasting and chemical resistant . These alkyd and acrylic enamels are old technology.
If the budget allows and it can be done safely, by all means. I won't touch anything without supplied clean air now that I have it, but urethane is some dangerous business if not handled properly.
Praise we see for the dealer paint is a bit silly, IMO. We have a 3020 that was done with JD's paint about 20 years ago and it has been chalked up for at least 10 years (good primer, hardener, and appropriate reducers were used).
IMO, even the best of the alkyds is a 10-12 year finish on a working machine (all of our machines are stored in sheds and do not sit outside unless doing field work). I feel as though alkyd never actually dries (even with a hardener added) and contaminants easily embed in it...think things like weed sprays and what not. These paints NEED to be cleaned and waxed very diligently.
I'd like to try some of the urethanes from equipmentcolor, but I don't like to buy without seeing sprayouts or color chips first. The shipping times might not be convenient either. I'm not sure what Nason or Omni run per gallon but they are undoubtedly some of the best options for restoration work. Again, these products will require a trip to a jobber rather than just popping to my local farm store for the VS acrylic enamel (which is more convenient than getting to the equipment dealers, fyi).
Listen, there are tons of "good enough" products out there, and you can spend the rest of your life debating color matches. My bet is that 90% of the people debating them can't spot a "reasonable" match from an "exact" match without a color card in hand...even then, who is to pick which one is correct at this point?
You absolutely need a good primer and a good film build. These guys spraying rustoleum primers followed by rattle cans from the dealer and going on about how good of a finish it is are just doling out terrible advice. Then you'll see the next guy come along and slam some brand because they used rattle cans and it didn't last...
I've yet to see someone speak lowly about the VS ACRYLIC enamel and provide any useful details about the job. Try it out, be a pioneer.
(quoted from post at 23:14:57 01/24/19) Nope, never. Took my Farmall H down to every piece, took it all apart, painted my Farmall H with the Van Sickle IH red, spray cans, and it went on perfect, smooth, no blemish, perfect. Color was sorta close to IH red, but I figured what the heck. Close enough. Took about a month or two, but every piece of it developed a white film, just sitting inside the barn. Not even out in the sun. Yuck. Had to repaint the entire tractor. Went to the Case-IH dealer and got real paint. Perfect.
(quoted from post at 21:56:22 01/28/19) I removed the old rust and old paint various ways, grinders, wire brush, sandpaper, elbow grease. I spray primed various rattle cans of primer, some brown, some red, whatever I could find. I took particular care to paint in good conditions, warm, dry outside still air. I think I put on several coats. I really liked the way the VS went on, I'll give them credit for that. Color turned out to be weird, to be honest. I thought VS developed some red color, sat around an thought, til somebody said "I know, let's call it IH Red!" I subsequently went to the Case-IHC dealer, got advised by my favorite old timer guy to use some number like B-74556 or some such, and just sprayed it over the VS. Turned out perfect. Has not turned white or filmy or faded or anything in 5 or 6 years. Kept inside the barn, unheated. Perfect.
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