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Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd

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Justusjamie

11-18-2023 12:27:52




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Good afternoon. I purchased a Cockshutt 1365 Tractor 4 wheel drive. The front wheels do not seem to be powered. I had it stuck in the mud. The back left wheel was the only one turning. When I pressed on the left brake the right rear wheel would turn. At no time did the front wheels turn under power. Is there a way to engage the 4wd or is it suppose to be engaged all the time? Any help or suggestions would get greatly appreciated. Thank you.[/b]

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Justusjamie

11-19-2023 16:15:46




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 12:27:52  
My primary use for the tractor (90% of the time) will be gor plowing snow in my 500 foot gravel driveway. Would you recommend 2 wheel drive for this use, until wheels starts spinning? Or would the 4 wheel drive be ok?
I tried to PM you earlier but was not able to do that for some reason.
Thanks again

Jamie



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rrlund

11-19-2023 17:12:44




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-19-2023 16:15:46  
4 wheel drive in the snow. No sense waiting until it slips, the gears in the transfer case will grind.



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Justusjamie

11-19-2023 14:19:53




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 12:27:52  
Ok, good to know. Any other tips or suggestion very much appreciated. Thanks.



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rrlund

11-19-2023 14:57:25




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-19-2023 14:19:53  
Keep it in two wheel drive on hard surfaces, especially when turning. I'm not saying the 4 wheel drive is weak, but it has one weak feature. The snap ring that holds everything together in the transfer case could have been heavier. When you turn on a hard surface and put pressure on the gears, the snap ring, over time, will start to bow and will eventually slip out of the groove. When it does, you have to drain the rear end, unbolt the case and drop it down, then take the shaft all the way out to put a new snap ring in. If you do, remember, it's a metric snap ring. A standard size will either be too loose, or will bend right from the start. Those rings are available from AGCO.

Don't be too concerned, it's not like that ring will blow off for no reason, just disengage it when it's not necessary to have it engaged.

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Justusjamie

11-19-2023 12:05:59




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 12:27:52  
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Tested the 4wd lever today, it works. Very happy. Thanks again. I found another foot pedal on the right hand side below the 3 point hitch control. Would that be a differential lock for the rear tires? I attached a pic.

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rrlund

11-19-2023 13:55:52




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-19-2023 12:05:59  
Differential lock, yes. Make sure that you keep that PTO clutch lever down in the engaged position all the time. Leaving it disengaged puts too much pressure and wear on the thrust bearing on the crank. If you want to engage or disengage the PTO, pull the clutch lever up, move the mechanical PTO lever that rotates left and right, below and in front of the seat, then engage the PTO clutch lever to the engaged position again.

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Justusjamie

11-18-2023 15:18:40




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 12:27:52  
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Looks like this is the lever you are describing. It was in the dis-engaged position from your description. We are having a heavy downpour of rain right now. Tomorrow I will test the 4wd with the lever engaged. Thanks again. Really appreciate the help.



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rrlund

11-18-2023 17:12:38




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 15:18:40  
That's the one. Looks like the round knob is broken. They're a heck of a nice tractor.



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Justusjamie

11-18-2023 14:59:15




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 12:27:52  
Thank you very much. I will take a look for that lever and give it a try. Very much appreciated.



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rrlund

11-18-2023 14:17:35




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 Re: Oliver (Cockshutt) 1365 4wd in reply to Justusjamie, 11-18-2023 12:27:52  
The 4 wheel drive lever is just ahead of the seat, comes up the left side of the transmission, curves in and has a black knob on it. Push it forward toward the dash to engage, pull back toward the seat to disengage. There's a detent ball and spring, so you should feel and hear a little bit of a snap. If it doesn't work, look underneath and make sure the pin hasn't come out and let the linkage rod come unhooked.

So you're the one who has the other 1365 Cockshutt 4 wheel drive. LOL I have one too. I painted mine green and put Oliver decals on it.

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