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1650G Power Steering

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BrotherJoe

06-20-2021 05:55:06




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Hey all,
I just got a straight, 1650 (looks like it's a '66) and noticed on the drive home that the steering wanders. In the course of a mile or so you probably do 1 or 2 complete revolutions of the steering wheel to the left to keep it going straight.
At the moment, besides needing a seat and a muffler, that's about the most annoying thing I want to dig into
Is this a leak in the steering box?

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LSaunders

06-20-2021 19:22:49




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
My 1850 has been doing that for the 35 years I've had it. Don't notice it in the field, on the road it's about like you describe. So far it's still going. Knocking on wood as I write this.



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BrotherJoe

06-20-2021 14:15:58




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
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Thanks guys; easy stuff first, but, yea, it's a 60 year old machine..



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BrotherJoe

06-20-2021 09:03:49




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
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Any way to verify? It is a NF, and outside of odd jobs/wagon duty around the farm, I'm probably going to paint it up and use it for tractor rides, so, thats why it's a bit annoying :).

I see someone indicated checking the flow divider, can do that too.

Thanks folks,

J



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J. Schwiebert

06-20-2021 12:35:33




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 09:03:49  
You are going to have a little internal leakage.



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alberta dave

06-20-2021 07:03:31




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
Our 1650 did the same. Always had to do a steady slow crank to the left to keep it going in a straight line. One of my 1850's was doing that but to a lesser degree but suddenly the steering became dead when driving up steep hills and was locking. One of the chaps here on this website suggested that I clean out the flow divider block which regulates the flow of fluid to the steering. I found a small distorted light piece of round metal and a half inch long metal shard in the block. Cleaned the block out and the 1850 steers much better. Now if I could only find time to rebuild the leaky steering cylinder under the radiator.....

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rrlund

06-20-2021 06:54:10




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
It's most likely the hydra motor. No parts available to rebuild them, just have to find a good replacement or live with it. A lot of combines of that vintage used the same hydra motor.



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Mike(NEOhio)

06-20-2021 06:25:19




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
Odd that it's all one direction. Wouldn't hurt to check the toe-in.



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kevinecwi

06-20-2021 06:04:28




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to BrotherJoe, 06-20-2021 05:55:06  
That does seem excessive, but I notice that on mine also when driving down the road. In the field I never even think about it. I believe parts are available to convert to the char-lynn style steering motor under the dash. Pricey but may fix the issue.



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ziffel

06-20-2021 10:03:20




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 Re: 1650G Power Steering in reply to kevinecwi, 06-20-2021 06:04:28  
FIRST..Clean the flow divider and install a new hyd filter. You may find bits of silver in the flow divider from a collapsed filter. Those are the easiest and cheapest first things you can do. Good luck..



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