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1850 perkins engine swap?

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This message is a reply to an archived post by super99 on April 25, 2010 at 03:47:26.
The original subject was "Re: 1850 perkins engine swap?".

I'm trying to put a combine perkins into a white 2-105 and the oil pump differences are giving me a fit. Can you help me? The tractor motor has a set screw hold the oil pump in and the combine engine has a bolted in oil pump and they have different oil routings . Pulling my hair out here !!!
 
All I remember reading about those swaps is that almost all (if not all) the tractor engine parts have to swapped to the combine engine to make it work in the tractor.
 
Sorry, my memory isn't that good, it's been 19 years since I did mine. I had to strip everything off of the outside of the block and put the Oliver parts on it. The oil pump from your 1850 won't fit in the donor block? Not sure that I understand different oil routing? What combine is the donor? Mine came from a MF 750. Pictures might help if you have any. Sorry I can't be of more help. Chris
 
I'm not sure what combine motor I have. It came with the tractor as a "package deal ". It's one of those deals where everything looks the same but when you get down to it there are some differences. The oil routing that I'm referring to is where the oil comes out of the combine engine oil pump ,which is bolted to the block, the oil goes straight up into the block through the pump. The tractor oil pump sends the oil out the side of the pump into an oil tube. Wish I knew how to send pictures. Thanks for replying back to me.
 
Send me the engine serial number for each engine (on the flat surface near the injection pump) and we can surely come up with something
 
Ok thanks. The tractor engine number is 354u332243tL I think . The combine motor number is 3543u9029tL I think. Any help is appreciated .
 
I'd have to see it, but it might be that your only option would be to leave the filter on the other side of the engine, but I don't know if it'll fit down in the frame. Like Chris, it's been 20 years since I did one of those swaps, but both pumps had the same way of mounting in the block. I couldn't tell you anymore if mine bolted in or used a set screw, but I'm leaning heavy toward it bolting in. If that combine engine is earlier, maybe you'll have to get an oil pump out of an 1850?
 
That second serial number looks like a dot 3 engine possible white 8800 combine application? Is that engine turboed? if so there might be a
"T" missing from in front of the "6.3543..." serial number. Anyways if that is the case the oil group from a dot 4 engine is what you are
looking for. tractor application with the parts you might need would be late model White 2-85, 2-105, 2-88, 2-110 or massey 2705...just
double check the serial number
 
I will check and yes both engines are turbo'ed. got a picture of that number on my phone.....it is what I wrote before. Thanks and keep any info coming. Isn't that 105 engine that I have an later model? Or do i need a pump from a later model yet?
 
There is an engine serial number break on the 2-85 going from a 6.354.1 to a 6.354.4 and T6.354.1 to a T6.354.4 for the 2-105 tractor. The
1st engine you posted is an early engine (T6.354.1)
 
Maybe that's why it has a different oil pump ---one that is held in with a set screw and the combine motor has an oil pump that is held with two bolts and its discharge goes into a passage in the block before going outside the block to filters. I know this is probably all confusing the way I explain it LOL. I'll keep working at it with some ideas that I have... i sure thank you for trying to help.
 
Good news/bad news. I went to Agco parts books. The 1850s used a set screw, the 2-110 White used a bolt on. Now finding a parted out 2-110 might be a problem. Might be easier to find somebody to trade you an older engine for the one you have. Cooler lines could be a problem if you left the filter base where it is on the combine engine.
 
Thanks and I appreciate you looking for me. I have decided to put all the components that were on the combine engine onto the tractor frame, thus eliminating any reason for the engine to not get properly lubricated. It's a real pain in the butt but I'm getting it. I had to notch the top of the frame rail on the left side and make an inch and a half spacer block so the combine oil system/cooler will fit. Basically, the complete combine engine will be just the way it was while in the combine. It'll be weird looking but should work flawlessly........I hope :)
 
You might have to change injector lines. I'm not sure on the 105, but on the 1850, I did. The combine used a cable and the tractor
uses a solid rod. The rod wouldn't go though the lines the way they were bent.
 
Didn't have a problem with injector lines but the water pump is lower on this combine engie and will require some thinking on how to overcome this problem. Can you run an engine (this one particularly) without a harmonic balancer ???
 
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