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Oliver, Cletrac, Co-op & Cockshutt Tractors Discussion Forum
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Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op

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TractorTucker

09-15-2020 16:31:07




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I was given this tractor last fall and I am trying to figure out what it is. The engine is seized and I haven't been able to break it free. The tractor appears to have original Co-op e3 sheet metal, but the rims appear to be Cockshutt rims and I have found red paint, what I believe is Co-op paint, and some bright orange paint on it under the industrial yellow. Also, does anyone have an idea of what it would cost for an engine rebuild?

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WadeBH

09-19-2020 05:50:38




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
Agree with other comments that this is a CO-OP E3 and it appears to be mostly original with usable rear wheels and tin. Per other recommendations, purchasing a second 30 or E3 with a running engine and rear fenders will be far more cost effective than rebuilding the original engine, and they are readily available given that 30,000+ of these tractors were built. Just rebuilding the engine alone will be several thousand $s dependent upon how much of the work you perform yourself. That said, looks like a worthy project! Phil Heisey and Steiners have parts available to assist your build.

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Bruce from Can.

09-19-2020 03:00:48




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
You can by a running Cockshutt 30 , which that tractor is, with good tires for user 2 Grand most any day. I have seen running 30 Cockshutts only bring $900. On farm auctions. Great tractors in there day, but other than collecting, not too much use on farms today, so this is reflected in the price. You should by a runner as you have a parts tractor.



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scootergmc

09-16-2020 07:31:05




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
An engine rebuild (assuming that's all that's wrong) would cost you in parts and labor probably more than what you could just buy a runner.



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TractorTucker

09-15-2020 19:57:03




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
Some more pictures. I can't find my picture of the serial number but according to Tractordata.com it is a 1949 tractor. The only history that I have on this tractor is that it was dragged to my neighbors pasture about a decade ago and abandoned. My neighbor believes it has sat outside and not run in several decades. I have had the valve cover off and none of the valves are stuck. The data tag is missing from the engine. The manifold is very severally rusted through. I have had atf and acetone soaking in the cylinders for about 6 months now.

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centash

09-16-2020 14:15:46




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 19:57:03  
I think you should pull the head off. The rusted through manifold may have resulted from being filled with water when it rains, which may have also leaked into the cylinders. Outside for decades is not good....

Ben



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1206SWMO

09-15-2020 19:50:28




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
A 30 Cockshutt or E-3 Coop should be the exact same tractor except for the grill center piece and the paint color..



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centash

09-15-2020 18:05:51




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
It was manufactured by Cockshutt and sold as a Coop in the US. Lots of that series Cockshutts to be found here in Ontario, but I have never seen one painted as a Coop. It should have a Buda engine, rebuild costs would be dependent upon the extent of the rebuild. Resembles a Cockshutt 30.

Ben



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Mike(NEOhio)

09-15-2020 16:35:52




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:31:07  
Looks to be a COOP by the orange. Don't forget, a lot of parts could have been swapped over the years. I have two that were my father in law's but they were painted red. Owners often did not like the orange.



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TractorTucker

09-15-2020 16:45:20




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to Mike(NEOhio), 09-15-2020 16:35:52  
I would guess at least one previous owner did not like the seat.



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rustred

09-15-2020 18:04:37




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 Re: Is it a Cockshutt or a Co-op in reply to TractorTucker, 09-15-2020 16:45:20  
lots of pictures but not one that shows the whole tractor. i hate bits and pieces of tractors . show the whole tractor . but anyhow it will cost more than tractor will be worth. plus find the serial # and then its very easy to tell what you have there. tear the engine down and then start making a list of parts. cam be 2k to 4 or 5 k for engine. pretty easy to sink 10k to get it looking good.



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