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Oliver, Cletrac, Co-op & Cockshutt Tractors Discussion Forum

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07-18-2020 16:11:44

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looking at a 1952 88 standard diesel. wanted to know if the engines are reliable and good. worth any more than a gas model? or stay away. good running unit. did the diesels have 16.9x30 tires?

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07-22-2020 19:02:08

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 16:11:44  
I sold dad's 88 standard diesel a couple months back. It was a real good running tractor. I didn't have it advertised, but a guy saw it that bought one of our 77's, then bought the 88D standard and a 770 diesel as well. It had 16.9-30 rear tires and 7.50-18 fronts. It would run down and pass any of our row crops like they were standing still.

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donald Lehman

07-19-2020 08:52:21

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 16:11:44  
88's and S-88 generally go between 7,000 and 8,000 engine hours between overhauls. The first motor on Pop's 88 made 7700 hours, the second made it over 8,000. The current motor has in the neighborhood of 5,000 hours on it. Our S-88 made it to just about 8,000 the first time around. Both of these tractors ran two row forage havesters the first 4-5 years of their life. They got used hard. I'm talking engine hours, not clock hours, now. There's a big difference.

The 310's are pretty good until you get to the turbocharged models. There's a reason you see a lot of Cummins powered 1855's and 1955's. There's a reason White returned to the 354 Perkins in the 2-105's.

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07-19-2020 08:28:46

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 16:11:44  
If you're thinking there might be a difference between the gas and diesel like the difference between the 310 gas and diesel, I think you can put your mind at ease. The 88 diesels were pretty bullet proof. I don't think they had any more problems than the gas version did. Wrist pin bushings always seemed to be an issue in the Oliver Waukeshas from the time they were introduced, but in the 88s it was just more an issue of them developing a knock and having to be overhauled to remedy it, but they weren't prone to throwing rods like the 310 diesel was. When I bought my 77 gas 25 years ago it had a wrist pin knock.

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Tramway Guy

07-18-2020 20:42:36

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 16:11:44  
Diesels would have same tires as gas for each model.

If the diesel is running, thatís a plus. Especially if starts easily both cold and hot. Hard starting when hot indicates injector pump wear. Fixing that is very expensive.

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07-18-2020 21:34:43

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to Tramway Guy, 07-18-2020 20:42:36  
what i am wanting to know is about these waukesha engines , and how good they are. i know about the poor pump these engines have. and i am thinking the diesels have 30" rubber while the gas has 26" but anyhow its not a super and has 30" tires. this is what i want to know. i am referring to the standard model not the row crop.

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tom upton

07-19-2020 06:19:30

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 21:34:43  
My Dad bought a 88 diesel new in 1949. It did the majority of the work on our farms, and several others in the area for a lot of years. Dad did a fair bit of custom work with a Dion forage harvester behind it mostly cutting silage corn and filling silos. I believe it was the Massey dealer had a new "high horsepower" tractor out that they wanted to demo on the harvester one day, so they unhooked the 88 and put it on. I dont remember the model number, but I remember Dad saying the dealer figured it would make the Oliver look pretty sick! According to Dad the first gear they tryed it in stalled the tractor pretty much as soon as the corn hit the head. Low gear and 22 minutes later they got the wagon loaded. Dad claims he was putting load on in around 8 minutes with the 88. I dont think they sold any Masseys that day! In answer to your questions 88 diesel does have a great engine. I am not sure why you say the pumps where not good? As far as tire size I have seen both 26 and 30 inch on 88 standards so guess it was whatever option you wanted?

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07-18-2020 21:37:42

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 21:34:43  
what does mr. schwiebert say to this?

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J. Schwiebert

07-19-2020 08:32:46

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 Re: 88 diesel in reply to rustred, 07-18-2020 21:37:42  
I sent you an e-mail. J.

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