2-105 engine into 1850

mogman · Jun 30, 2020

OK so I have this 1850 that I bought with a stuck motor, have been trying for awhile to get it unstuck so it is time to do some invasive work.
But I also have a 2-105 that has a running engine, only she burns oil, it has some major trans. issues and is also just plain ugly.
I am thinking about building the White engine and put it in the Oliver and wonder what issues I might have fitting this engine.

mogman · Jun 30, 2020

I do understand they are both 6-354 Perkins engines but what about stuffing the turbo in there etc.

mogman · Jun 30, 2020

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The 1850 did not have a 2 speed so it would be nice if the 3 speed could be stuffed in there at the same time.

J. Schwiebert · Jun 30, 2020

There are differences how they bolt up> Don't throw the 1850 engine away till you are done! Is your 2-105 engine a dot one or a dot 4 engine?

rrlund · Jul 1, 2020

The 1850 has a chain coupler in the drive shaft, the 2-105 has a trunnion coupler. The fuel tank would have to be cut and modified for the turbo. I don't think the manifolds would be interchangeable to use the non turbo manifold. The bolts are horizontal on one and diagonal on the other if memory serves me right. It would be pretty sweet if you could drill the frame to use the 2-105 motor mounts though.

wilma · Jul 1, 2020

On the same line of thinking with rrlund, I would just unbolt the white engine frame...bolt that to the 1850 rear end and just drill and tap the holes for the cast oliver grill (5/8-11)...then you will have very little if any engine alignment issues and you will be able to keep the newer engine mounts...make sense or did I confuse everyone

J.Wondergem · Jul 2, 2020

(quoted from post at 08:41:20 07/01/20) The 1850 has a chain coupler in the drive shaft, the 2-105 has a trunnion coupler. The fuel tank would have to be cut and modified for the turbo. I don't think the manifolds would be interchangeable to use the non turbo manifold. The bolts are horizontal on one and diagonal on the other if memory serves me right. It would be pretty sweet if you could drill the frame to use the 2-105 motor mounts though.

You could also just eliminate the top fuel tank and just use fender tanks.

rrlund · Jul 2, 2020

You probably didn't know the old guy Jack, but there was a guy who worked for Hofferbert's who put an engine out of a 750 Massey combine in one. That had a turbo. He cut off half of the front shallow part of the tank and had it welded back up. I've seen where they've just cut off the whole front shallow part.

J.Wondergem · Jul 2, 2020

(quoted from post at 09:09:30 07/02/20) You probably didn't know the old guy Jack, but there was a guy who worked for Hofferbert's who put an engine out of a 750 Massey combine in one. That had a turbo. He cut off half of the front shallow part of the tank and had it welded back up. I've seen where they've just cut off the whole front shallow part.

Your right about knowing the guy, as I have never been to Hofferberts. That might be easier to cut the tank like you say.

mogman · Jul 3, 2020

(quoted from post at 05:41:20 07/01/20) The 1850 has a chain coupler in the drive shaft, the 2-105 has a trunnion coupler. The fuel tank would have to be cut and modified for the turbo. I don't think the manifolds would be interchangeable to use the non turbo manifold. The bolts are horizontal on one and diagonal on the other if memory serves me right. It would be pretty sweet if you could drill the frame to use the 2-105 motor mounts though.

So what you are saying is the input shaft to the transmission is different?
I could switch the front frames as mentioned in another post
ALSO I have a 1755 with a bad motor (Waukesha), I wonder what possibilities shoving that into the mix could have, maybe use the white/1755 swaps and just build the 1850 stock motor

mogman · Jul 3, 2020

(quoted from post at 18:16:39 06/30/20) There are differences how they bolt up> Don't throw the 1850 engine away till you are done! Is your 2-105 engine a dot one or a dot 4 engine?

I have no idea, how can I tell?

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