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White 4-175 repower

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Kb88

03-31-2020 17:20:52




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I've been working on putting a Detroit 4-71t in a 4-175.




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Hay maker2

04-20-2020 09:01:23




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
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Curious to know how this worked out



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scootergmc

04-04-2020 16:43:55




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
I agree. We just sold an Allis HD14 with a 6-71 and you have to have the rpms to do work with that thing. Compare that to say lugging a D8 and they're night and day to how they do work. Different strokes for different folks. I like the conversion, looks fun.



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Hay maker2

04-04-2020 04:33:32




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
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Careful there, your going to get yelled at for saying that, then they are going to say that the rack is out of adjustment. Yes in my opinion any thing but a Detroit would be a big improvement.
I totally agree with you on that gutless Detroit. I had a 1950 with the 4-53 Detroit in it, 212 cubic inch noise machine. It was a 4 valve engine, N65 injectors, and completely rebuilt, and yes the rack was set correctly. It was still gutless. I would rather keep in in 2WD and brake traction then engage the 4WD because the Detroit could not handle and extra axle to turn. I always missed the fact that there was not a diff lock, but much like the 4WD, the Detroit would not want to spin both rear wheels. It was a great day when that left and a I bought a JD4240.

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J.Wondergem

04-01-2020 18:28:39




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
Looks good, and good thinking, no straight pipe> :D



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Kb88

04-01-2020 14:10:25




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
Well its getting close



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rustyplow

04-01-2020 10:41:23




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
Why a Detroit instead of, well whatever? Just curious. An old guy I know, a friend of my dad, he put a 6v71 in an allis 440. Still using it to work ground.



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Kb88

04-01-2020 11:36:23




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to rustyplow, 04-01-2020 10:41:23  
They are easy to find and they are very adaptable. Parts are easy to come by too



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rustyplow

04-01-2020 11:59:18




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 04-01-2020 11:36:23  
And parts are cheaper too, I'd bet.



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Kb88

04-01-2020 09:51:00




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
That 3208 always vibrated bad and it was really lazy but it always started good until it started pushing coolant out of the radiator.



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rrlund

04-01-2020 06:54:21




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
That'll make'er scream.



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oliverkid

04-01-2020 03:59:04




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
Thatís awesome!!! Definitely want to se the finished product!



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tom upton

03-31-2020 19:15:11




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to Kb88, 03-31-2020 17:20:52  
Nice! looks like it was meant to be there. 1/2 the cubes and twice the motor!



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davpal

04-03-2020 18:44:58




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to tom upton, 03-31-2020 19:15:11  
I got a feeling that's going to be way down on power. 284 cubes in a 20,000 lb 4wd? I'm thinking that would have been a better match for an S-10 pickup. I think an 8.3 cummins would have been a lot closer match to what he took out of there.



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Kb88

04-05-2020 15:09:10




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to davpal, 04-03-2020 18:44:58  
This tractor wasnt built heavy enough to handle much more than 175hp. This detroit has n70 injector in it so its supposed to be 180hp at 2100 rpm. I'll let you know by next week when I get it in the field how it performs.



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tom upton

04-04-2020 15:43:47




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 Re: White 4-175 repower in reply to davpal, 04-03-2020 18:44:58  
I will answer you as you don't seem quite as anti Detroit as Hay maker? The 4-71 T is an excellent replacement for the 3208. Not sure what he has in it for injectors but 200 H.P. and around 500 ft/lbs will not be an issue for a 4-71 T and it will run forever if its built as well as it looks. What a lot don't realize about the Jimmy is you can not really compare cu /inch of a two stroke to a 4 stroke. No you cant let it idle at 1200 RPM and expect it to lug but wind er up and as some say "drive it like you hate it" and it is one amazing engine. With the turbo it wont even be all that loud! It will be interesting to see what the originator of this post has to say after he gets it in the field. I will bet he is impressed with not only the power but with the fuel economy as well. All that being said even a 5.9 Cummins would have ALSO been a good swap, and one heck of an improvement over the 3208.

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