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cowdog

08-03-2015 14:57:00




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what do you guys know about John Deere 1010. gas engoine. they worth a hoot? what they worth $$$. I found one for 1500 bucks. I hope I don't get scurdged off this forum for asking a green question on the red-belly forum.




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Ultradog MN

08-05-2015 12:21:00




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
Ask on tractor talk board.



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tracy brown

08-05-2015 10:42:15




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
Second worst tractor JD ever made with 2010 being the worst.



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NoNewParts

08-05-2015 03:51:46




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
good thread cowdog, and glad it is on this board.

I learned some stuff...always a good thing.

I have a handful of Deeres in my stable and I like em.

See 1010's for sale often...ask my local yard/repair/seller

(Deere man, farming family) about them.(like asking on the Deere board)

His response....you don't want it...

yells to his dad who farmed with our 'antique' tractors...tell him about the 1010....a grunt, and a 'you don't want it'.

Men of few words but I respect their opinion on Deeres...that's why I asked them.... I shrug and take a pass on the tractor.

At least now I see some of the reasons from this thread.

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cowdog

08-04-2015 09:40:15




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
I called the owner last night . I believe I am going to pass it up. Although the price is right, to many iffy issues. I think it would be ok to work through, but I have plenty of tractors now anyway. Thanks for all your input guys.



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Bob

08-04-2015 08:00:04




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
Cowdog, if the FACTS be known, with the possible exception of the not-so-good oddball sleeve/deck construction of the engine (gas or diesel), they really are a pretty average tractor for their era.

They were designed and built in Dubuque and carried forward an open-center hydraulic system with poor filtration and poor brakes, while their Waterloo cousins had closed-center hydraulics, good filtration, and hydraulic wet disc brakes, and a better engine design.

So, IMHO, the Dubuques were very similar to many other tractors built at the time, and the Waterloo Deeres of that era were AHEAD of their time.

That is where the difference REALLY stands out, comparing Deere to Deere.

I don't know how much direct experience "old" has had with them, but he really likes to BASH them to excess, IMHO.

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TheOldHokie

08-04-2015 08:51:31




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to Bob, 08-04-2015 08:00:04  
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Maybe old has been listening to buickanddeere - he hates them too. For some folks that have heard him constantly bash the N-series that might actually be an endorsement for the 10's ;-)

FWIW I have no hands on experience but I have two neighbors that have been operating 1010's for as long as I have lived here.....

TOH



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old

08-05-2015 11:13:14




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to TheOldHokie, 08-04-2015 08:51:31  
Well I can tell by hands on they are the pits to work on and the cost of parts well they are higher then any I have ever run into. I have a parts 1010 and have worked on a 2010 that a guy owns and found out they are the pits to work on.



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old weldor

08-03-2015 20:52:21




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
I like john Deere, I grew up with 2 cyl. My dad farmed with an A,G, and 730 diesel. I have a little of everything. I've always heard bad things about the 1010.



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TOM N MS

08-03-2015 20:06:05




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
In good shape I'd try it if it was a really good price and power steering..



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old

08-03-2015 21:30:35




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to TOM N MS, 08-03-2015 20:06:05  
You might try it but you would not be likely to like it they are a money pit is they need worked on and a pain to work on



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TOM N MS

08-04-2015 03:35:49




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to old, 08-03-2015 21:30:35  
Thanks Old --just changed my mind..



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old

08-04-2015 09:07:17




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to TOM N MS, 08-04-2015 03:35:49  
Just to let you know they have an odd sleeve set up where all 4 sleeves are part of a flat plate that sits on top of the block so it uses 2 gaskets to install the sleeve and head. Also JD does not have that part any more and if you can find a sleeve set it will be $500 plus and hat is just the sleeves



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TOM N MS

08-04-2015 15:21:00




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to old, 08-04-2015 09:07:17  
Thanks--probably couldn't chase me fast enough to give me one..



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TheOldHokie

08-04-2015 10:10:44




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to old, 08-04-2015 09:07:17  

old said: (quoted from post at 12:07:17 08/04/15) Just to let you know they have an odd sleeve set up where all 4 sleeves are part of a flat plate that sits on top of the block so it uses 2 gaskets to install the sleeve and head. Also JD does not have that part any more and if you can find a sleeve set it will be $500 plus and hat is just the sleeves


I all ready know about the deck plate assembly. John Deere part number for gas engines is AT15761 and is currently selling for $750. To put that in perspective that's about what it would cost you to replace the power steering pump on an 860.

Now if you need the diesel version of that deck plate that is a good bit more - AT15762 currently selling for $1300. About what it would cost you to replace the vane pump on an NAA or Hundred series with a new piston pump and hydraulic manifold.

Fixing old tractors ain't cheap no matter who makes them :lol:

TOH
This post was edited by TheOldHokie at 10:13:04 08/04/15 2 times.

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old

08-04-2015 14:04:23




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to TheOldHokie, 08-04-2015 10:10:44  
That price quote was from around 7-10 years ago when I checked on the parts for the 1010 I have here that is now just a parts machine since parts are hard to find and cost a lot more then most other tractors. Plus the 1010 and 2010 where built in such a way a lot of times you have to remove 3 parts to fix the problem area



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jammison

08-04-2015 14:17:08




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to old, 08-04-2015 14:04:23  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to seeThat is fantastic in holding back on inflation for 7 to 10 years! To be commended for sure!



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old

08-04-2015 14:24:07




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to jammison, 08-04-2015 14:17:08  
Plus back then when I asked about getting the sleeve set they said they might be able to get one not that they could get one and if they could get it it could take a month of more for it to come in



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cowdog

08-03-2015 17:21:53




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
Thanks. thats what I beem hearing, alot!!! I dont need a pain in the rearend that much. I'LL pass.



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old

08-03-2015 17:14:38




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to cowdog, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
JD 1010 was John Deere's problem child and I'd run not walk away from it. Parts are high if you can find them and they are hard to work on etc. Many parts JD does not even handle for them and what they do will cost you an arm and leg and then some. I have parts of one and have worked on them over the years and they are the pits



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R Geiger

08-03-2015 15:18:49




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to mgk2081, 08-03-2015 14:57:00  
Why not ask it on the JD forum? Might even get more accurate information.

I see that you also asked there. You even got somewhat of an answer. I like my JD MC.
This post was edited by R Geiger at 15:20:34 08/03/15.



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cowdog

08-03-2015 15:20:05




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 Re: OT John Deere in reply to R Geiger, 08-03-2015 15:18:49  
. I did. just wanted an outside opinion



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