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Cork screw log splitter

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LisaK

11-29-2013 19:08:26




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This fall we picked up a pto driven cork screw log splitter. However the pto turns the wrong way on the 8n's so it won't bite into a log. What would this work on? We bought it at an auction with the intention of using it on an 8n so now till we find way to use it, it's worthless to us. (I already know they're dangerous, would have been a nice way to split wood at the hunting shack)




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Phil N

11-30-2013 09:33:58




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
I first saw one on a tractor PTO about 25 years ago. I wouldn"t use one then and I sure as heck wouldn"t use one now. EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!!!!! !!! I use a hydraulic splitter powered by an 8 HP Briggs and Stratton engine from an old snow blower. I bought a 2 stage pump, love connector, hydraulic cylinder, control valve, and tank from Northern Tool. The hoses were from a local hydraulic shop. The main beam is a 7 foot rail road track with the wide flange pointing upward. The wedge and push pad are welded from steel from local scrap yard. The I beam axel and wheels are from a local junk yard. The ball hitch is from TSC. I built this thing about 12 years ago for about 1/4 to 1/3 the cost of new. I must have split about 100 cords of hard wood with it by now. It works great and is a lot safer than the cork screw type. Don"t use the cork screw type. It isn"t worth getting hurt or worse.

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crawlerjohn

11-30-2013 08:47:08




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
Some of the Mitsubishi and Satoh tractors have reversed pto's



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gatcchelguy

11-30-2013 08:10:16




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
I know two guys that got caught in them. One came out more or less unscathed. The other lost both arms.



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DGinVT

11-30-2013 06:17:41




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
The Farmall Cub has a reverse pto as well as the Kubota B7100D. If you have an old transmission (car or truck) around it could be coupled up to the "Cork Screw" and then put in reverse gear to run. I never thought they were too safe



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kstractor

11-30-2013 07:12:43




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to DGinVT, 11-30-2013 06:17:41  
The B6000 Kubota was the only Kubota not a gray market tractor sold here that was backwards. I had a customer that ran his chopper boxes with a B7100.



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DGinVT

11-30-2013 11:34:42




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to kstractor, 11-30-2013 07:12:43  
Looking back you are right. My neighbor had a B6000 and I guess I was thinking of it. I did not like the fact that those machine's PTOs all stopped when the clutch got pushed in. We had the B7100D for 25 years and finally traded it for a 2600 Ford which had a live PTO. Growing up during the depression we made use of what we had lying around such as old truck/car transmissions which could be adopted to most anything.

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Kirk-NJ

11-30-2013 03:02:01




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
I have a unicorn brand. Works fine on the N. Didn't know they made them in reverse pto. Might work if you had a sherman reverser.
Someone mention the cub which is reverse but you might need an adaptor for the spline plus if it's a 3pt set you would have to fab something up for the cub.

Kirk



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36 coupe

11-30-2013 01:56:07




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
Heard of a fellow who had one on his tractor.He backed into a big Hemlock, had to cut the tree down to get loose.



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Ultradog MN

11-30-2013 15:19:23




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to 36 coupe, 11-30-2013 01:56:07  
Sounds like an old wive's tale.
They could have easily taken a pipe wrench and unscrewed it from the tree - just as you sometimes have to do with a post hole digger.



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36 coupe

12-01-2013 15:28:45




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to Ultradog MN, 11-30-2013 15:19:23  
You under estimate the gripping power of a 40 foot green hemlock.Post hole drills get hung up a bit of flat rock.In any case I stay clear of pto shafts.Ill leave the screw type splitters to Dufus.



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kylemorley

11-29-2013 20:40:38




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
Screw cone splitter had a wave of popularity during the wood heat craze that followed the oil embargo in the '70s.. Most of them were made to go on the back axle of a car, in the place of a wheel, but others were made using rollers, so you could just drive your car or truck on, or to fit a 3 pt tractor hitch, taking power from the PTO, or even a Gravely tractor. They actually worked very well, and the PTO ones in particular made for a very nice, compact package, as they needed no valves, hoses or pump, and could split wood as fast or faster than a 10HP hydraulic splitter. There are many good videos of screw splitters to be found on Youtube.

The axle style tended to have right hand threads, like a standard hardware store screw, and the PTO ones usually had a left hand thread to match the rotation of a tractor PTO. If you have a PTO version with a RH thread it will not work on a Ford or most other US tractors and was probably made to fit an early Japanese tractor with the reverse PTO (Kubota at one time sold a Kuboto-branded PTO screw splitter).

Screw cones got a bad reputation for being dangerous. I've never been able to figure out how well deserved this reputation was, but after using one it seems to me they are comparable in danger to a chain saw if one resists the urge to go too fast. It is interesting to note that Stickler still sells a axle cone in th US, and that screw splitters seem to be especially popular in Europe these days. Newer ones tend to have safety features not used in the old days, primarily kill switches.

Anyone got a 3pt PTO screw splitter they don't want, in the MA-NH-VT area, I am looking for one.

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Lisa K

11-29-2013 22:48:34




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to kylemorley, 11-29-2013 20:40:38  
Anyone wants mine I'll take pics in the morning and can email, smoking bacon tomorrow so will only have my phone



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oldtanker

11-29-2013 22:58:05




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to Lisa K, 11-29-2013 22:48:34  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see

We have been smoking bacon and hams! Still have 3 big hams and 6 sides of bacon in brine now.

Rick



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old

11-29-2013 20:38:22




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
Oh so you got your self a widow maker I would not have one of those things since it will kill you and that is if your lucky



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ericlb

11-29-2013 20:17:09




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
i too belive this one probably fits a cub,if its mate for atractor pto hookup, the cub pto rotates oposit of "normal" and at engine rpm, not 540, [ i just happen to have a cub if you dont want it now lol]



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Lisa K

11-29-2013 20:30:17




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to ericlb, 11-29-2013 20:17:09  
I really have no use for it. We paid 70 for it at the auction and can't buy an expensive tractor to run it on!



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Jock(OR)

11-29-2013 19:58:25




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
They were designed to mount on the rear axle of a truck. You were to jack up one rear wheel, remove the wheel and tire, then bolt the splitter on to the lug nuts. Rotation would depend on which side of the truck it was mounted on.



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soundguy

11-29-2013 19:15:45




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to LisaK, 11-29-2013 19:08:26  
i believe the ih cub has a reverse pto.. as well as some grey market jap subcompacts.. like a b6000 kubota...



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Dave8N in Pa

11-30-2013 15:42:39




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to soundguy, 11-29-2013 19:15:45  
Many years ago I built a splitter on a super C using one of those screws. On tuff stuff it barely had enough power. It was a good tractor, strong motor. I don't think a Cub would work well. As for danger, it can be dangerous. But so can an axe on anything else that splits wood.



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soundguy

11-30-2013 15:55:10




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 11-30-2013 15:42:39  
i think the cub could do it with correct gearing. .. then again.. with 9-10hp to play with.. I think I'd go hydraulic with it.. get a big cyl advantage.

i know a guy who had an old log splitter with bad gas engine.. and just used his tractor as the power plant for the splitters hyds..

I think a C would have a easier time mind ya though.

I love my C



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Dave8N in Pa

12-01-2013 05:00:08




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to soundguy, 11-30-2013 15:55:10  
The C was a handy little tractor, loved the one I had. I just bought an H and look forward to using it. Really need a manifold but not sure if I should buy one on line. People say they don't fit well.



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soundguy

12-02-2013 07:18:22




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 Re: Cork screw log splitter in reply to Dave8N in Pa, 12-01-2013 05:00:08  
i'm a ford guy for life.. but.. I must say.

that C I have is fun.. and was fun towork on.

one of the easiets front pedistals and front ends to work on I'v played with.

I picked up an H early last year as well. great tractor.. LOTS of tractor compaired to the c.. you will love yours.



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