2N steers hard to the left, easy to the right

wwalkersd

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The '44 2N I bought for the therapeutic riding program turns very easily to the right, but requires a lot of effort to hold in a turn to the left. What should I check? Alignment, i.e., toe-in? The thought of a differential problem crossed my mind, but I've seen both tires slip when starting from a stop. Anything else?
 
(quoted from post at 01:15:15 11/21/08) The '44 2N I bought for the therapeutic riding program turns very easily to the right, but requires a lot of effort to hold in a turn to the left. What should I check? Alignment, i.e., toe-in? The thought of a differential problem crossed my mind, but I've seen both tires slip when starting from a stop. Anything else?

LOL.

Your top bearing in your steering sector is gone.

It may end up screwing all the way out if you don't fix it.
 
steering wheel rise any spinning lock to lock?

If so.. I'd look at these parts:

683571A BEARING, BALL Bearing, Thrust, Steering Gear Worm, Years: 01/01/1939-12/31/1947
9N3573 BEARING, CONE Cone, Steering Column, Years: 01/01/1939-12/31/1947

soundguy
 
remember.. no worm and ballnut on the 2n.. but still.. I do think a bearing is going..

steering shaft gear to sector gear slippage will probably start shortly.

another option is sector bushing on one side may be horrible, letting the sector cock and bind.. same with the spindle bearings on one side..

soundguy
 
Thanks, you two.

Just to clarify, what I'm experiencing is that it not only takes more effort to initiate a left turn than a right turn, but it also takes much more effort to hold a constant left turn than to hold a constant right turn. That doesn't seem to me like the symptom of a binding bearing... but what do I know?
 
(quoted from post at 03:19:49 11/21/08) Thanks, you two.

Just to clarify, what I'm experiencing is that it not only takes more effort to initiate a left turn than a right turn, but it also takes much more effort to hold a constant left turn than to hold a constant right turn. That doesn't seem to me like the symptom of a binding bearing... but what do I know?

Well, I could be wrong, and I'm not all that familiar with the older steering boxes like I am the newer.

It might just be alignment.

Turning easy one way, and turning hard the other is a classic symptom of a bad upper bearing in a '49 and up 8N steering, and yes I know that you did say 2N.
 
(quoted from post at 08:15:56 11/21/08)
(quoted from post at 03:19:49 11/21/08) Thanks, you two.

Just to clarify, what I'm experiencing is that it not only takes more effort to initiate a left turn than a right turn, but it also takes much more effort to hold a constant left turn than to hold a constant right turn. That doesn't seem to me like the symptom of a binding bearing... but what do I know?

Well, I could be wrong, and I'm not all that familiar with the older steering boxes like I am the newer.

It might just be alignment.

Turning easy one way, and turning hard the other is a classic symptom of a bad upper bearing in a '49 and up 8N steering, and yes I know that you did say 2N.
Now that it sounds as though you fine gentlemen have it all figured out, I thought I would share my experiences on the L/R turning thing.

I have always found it easier to turn right. I can't even get my mind to embrace the idea of turning left, much less get my arms to react toward turning left.
HTH
 
(quoted from post at 23:15:15 11/20/08) The '44 2N I bought for the therapeutic riding program turns very easily to the right, but requires a lot of effort to hold in a turn to the left. What should I check? Alignment, i.e., toe-in? The thought of a differential problem crossed my mind, but I've seen both tires slip when starting from a stop. Anything else?
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WW;
When I first got my '44', it was doin' the same thing. I jacked it up to get all the weight off the front axle, and spun the steering wheel from one stop to the other. Found it was the right side spindle bearing , hanging up after about 1/3 turn.
I pulled the zerks out of both spindles and had my wife turn the steering wheel back and forth, while I squirted, PB BLASTER in the holes.
Once the rust and crud in the spindles got loose, the prob. went away..
Just another thought for ya to check out.....before dis-manteling the steering sectors!!!

HTH
Post back when ya get it fixed, and let us know what the prob. was!!!

Gary :) [/i:3d4eda2018][/b:3d4eda2018]
 
(quoted from post at 08:24:13 11/21/08) When I first got my '44', it was doin' the same thing. I jacked it up to get all the weight off the front axle, and spun the steering wheel from one stop to the other. Found it was the right side spindle bearing , hanging up after about 1/3 turn...

How were you able to determine where the hangup was? Could you feel it with your hands on the right wheel, or was there enough play in the system that you could see the right wheel change orientation as the play was taken up?

At any rate, guess I'll have to take my jack up there next time I go and jack up the front end. I assume the correct place to jack from is the center pivot of the front axle. Is that right?

If it's not the spindles, I'll check the steering shaft bearing. That looks like a big production, though, from the FO4. Gotta pull the hood and tank. Of course, anything looks like a big production if you haven't done it before. :wink:
 
(quoted from post at 08:14:14 11/21/08) I have always found it easier to turn right. I can't even get my mind to embrace the idea of turning left, much less get my arms to react toward turning left.
HTH

Is this a political post? :)

If so, it makes me wonder how all those NASCAR boys turn left.
 
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WW;.....you ask:How were you able to determine where the hangup was? Could you feel it with your hands on the right wheel,
Yep....while the wife slowly turned the steering wheel, I had both hands, front and back of the tire, lightly.
I had done the lft. side first, and it felt nice and smooth turning. But then I did the right side, and felt a series of small jerking movements, after she had turned the wheel about 1/3 of a turn.
The reason I went directly to the spindle area first was, that they looked like they had NOT been greased for some time.(the zerks were pretty crusty)!! I threw them away, and after workin' on it, installed new zerks.
Most of the PB BLASTER has since drained out, and I use wheel bearing grease in the spindles now. Seems to work better than reg. Multi-grade grease.
Your prob., could be other places than what mine was, altho this was the easiest place to start. It just so happened I lucked out going there first.
BTW: I always use the front bottom of the oil pan to jack up the axle, off the ground. I use a roll around 2000lb., car jack, with a 2x6 board for a top plate. Jacking on the axle support, is not very sturdy. JMO

Where in San Diego co. do ya live???? My son is still living in our old place, in Spring valley> He bought that from the wife and I, after my Military retirement.

Gary :) [/i:fbe322f954][/b:fbe322f954]
 
(quoted from post at 13:10:37 11/21/08)
(quoted from post at 08:14:14 11/21/08) I have always found it easier to turn right. I can't even get my mind to embrace the idea of turning left, much less get my arms to react toward turning left.
HTH

Is this a political post? :)

If so, it makes me wonder how all those NASCAR boys turn left.

Their "other right" hand? :lol:
 
(quoted from post at 10:45:40 11/21/08)

...Where in San Diego co. do ya live???? My son is still living in our old place, in Spring valley> He bought that from the wife and I, after my Military retirement.


Thanks, Gary. I live well north of him, in San Marcos, and the 2N lives just east of Ramona.
 

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