2N tote trailer

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I'm the kind of guy, that if I get an idea in my head, I have to put the plan in motion, before I forget it.!!! CRS ya know!!!???
So.....I needed something around here to haul small things in, (fire wood, dirt, rocks, debrie, etc. I already had half an old snowmobile single trailer laying around, and some left over 1x6 tounge and grove siding, and thought, what the heck. I'll build it.
So after cutting down the trailer to the size that I wanted, and putting it back together, the frame and axle are a done deal.
Ending up with a 4'X4' trailer, that I put a step up hitch on, so I can tow behind my 2N and/or my 4 wheeler.

I installed a solid axle as I did not have the $$$ to spend on springs, and it is just for light hauling around the prop. and maybe some backroad wood hauling for the neighbors fireplaces.

All and all, I may have $15.00 in it after it is finished, and I cleaned up a little garbage at the same time!!!!! :lol:
I'll post more on this tote, when I get it completed.

Have an "N" day

Gary
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Hi Gary, The trailer is looking nice, also recycles materials. Cheers, Murray

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Thanks Murray;
My wife said, that's nice, That maybe I could build more things to get rid of some of the eye sores around here!!!! :lol:
I'm not sure WHY she said that!!!

Gary :shock: [/i:8db6840d3f][/b:8db6840d3f]

Maybe she thought you could haul yourself off and improve the property...???

Like what you did, Gary, but I always find more uses for a thing like that and then kick myself for not finding an old axle with springs. I have an 8 footer that now I wish was a 12, it's not quite 6 foot wide but dang, if it were only 8...

Best laid plans....oh well, one day when I grow up and get rich...

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Morning Jim;
Yeh.....you are prob. right.!!! :lol: She WOULD be better off, if I just hauled my butt off somewhere. When I closed up my buis., due to the Heart thingie, She wanted to know what I was going to do now??? I told her absolutly NOTHING!!!!!! That didn't go over so well!!!! :lol:

See ya!

Gary 8) [/i:8d02dfe882][/b:8d02dfe882]

That's just dam snazzy! It being 4'x4' means you get 2 floors outta 1 sheet of plywood too!
I see enough tires in the background to build at least 3 more..... :wink:

Looks good, Gary, what is the purpose of the x-tra weight of the brake drums?

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Yer pretty smart!!!!! :lol:
That is exactly why I cut it down from 4'X6', so I could double up the floor, on that frame. I'm going to use 5/8th flooring doubled, just like they had on there when it was built. Should be stout enough, to never worry about it. I'll seal it real good, and call it wonderful :lol:

Have a good day jon!!!

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Gary, what is the purpose of the x-tra weight of the brake drums?

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I'm bettin' nothing. His wife probably told him to haul them off but he just didn't have the heart so now they're hid! :lol:
Sound like something I'd do.

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Dunk; The axle was made for a single snowmobile, and had original brakes on it. Using the same axle and hubs saved me the $$$$ from NOT buying new axle hubs. I was told that the hubs were off a rear axle for a Chev. auto. 14 inch wheels and hubs.
I just used what I had, that would not cost me a fortune!!!!! :lol:

Be well!!! Dunk

Gary [/i:a05b4f782e][/b:a05b4f782e]

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Dunk; The axle was made for a single snowmobile, and had original brakes on it. Using the same axle and hubs saved me the $$$$ from NOT buying new axle hubs. I was told that the hubs were off a rear axle for a Chev. auto. 14 inch wheels and hubs.
I just used what I had, that would not cost me a fortune!!!!! :lol:

Be well!!! Dunk

Gary [/i:4006043576][/b:4006043576]

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The wheels *should* bolt on the hubs just fine, without the brake drums, dropping quite a few pounds off the 4 wheeler pulling.

But, one never knows when I am just off my rocker... :roll:

Will be handy. Only thing I would have done differently (probably because mine is), would be add a pivot at the axle, and a simple latch mechanism so it tilts. I have a small factory built tilt bed (5x8 I think), and it is as handy as a pocket on a shirt. Has 14 inch car tires, and I pull it with my atv, 8N, truck, etc. Also works great for hauling a lawnmower, or atv behind truck. I have a 16 ft flatbed as well, but the little one is the handiest of the two because it is so easy to hitch, and can pull behind anything.

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Dunk; The axle was made for a single snowmobile, and had original brakes on it. Using the same axle and hubs saved me the $$$$ from NOT buying new axle hubs. I was told that the hubs were off a rear axle for a Chev. auto. 14 inch wheels and hubs.
I just used what I had, that would not cost me a fortune!!!!! :lol:

Be well!!! Dunk

Gary [/i:d8deb9d559][/b:d8deb9d559]

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The wheels *should* bolt on the hubs just fine, without the brake drums, dropping quite a few pounds off the 4 wheeler pulling.

But, one never knows when I am just off my rocker... :roll:

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I'll take a look at them Dunk. If they will come off without messin' up anything, I'll pull them. If not, I'll just leave them. Can't really afford new bearings and or new anything at this point. It is not very heavy anyway.
I lifted the whole thing up on the blocks......wheels, drums, tires, and frame. I don't really know how much weight IS there, but it can't be much.

Gary [/i:d8deb9d559][/b:d8deb9d559]

If you do pull them off, post a pic of where the spindles attach to the frame, I would like to see that.

Gary:

That tote looks great! Fun to see something useful come out of the scrap heap. You always do fine work and this is no exception. Keep us posted on your progress, I’d like to see each step of it.

I was thinking of making something for carrying loads around on the tractor, but I don’t have any axels or wheels lying around, so I thought I’d find an old wooden box with a pallet on the bottom & reinforce it to mount to the 3-point hitch. That wouldn’t be as heavy duty as yours, but may work for taking the garbage cans to the end of the driveway and other light duty haul jobs.

Gary......ya may regret not extending yer tongue tube all way back to rear cross frame. DROOPY FLOOR!!! It doesn't haffta be 1-piece, weld and splice. Maybe a triangular gusset in each corner? Don't take much to turn a wimpy to limpy .......BTDT, Dell

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OK GUYS; I'm going to answer everyone on this reply, if I don't mess up.

Ron-MO....I thought about the tilt bed thing, but I would have had to also tear the front of the trailer bed and axle apart to get that done. Just not cost effective right now. Thanks for the reply though!!!!!

Dan in CO.... I always enjoy your comments. I think you realize that. Thank you for the reply!!!!!

Dunk ......You ask for pix of the spindle attach point. Here ya are. Actually looks pretty good. But I am not going to take the brake drums off. Too costly!!! explaination at the bottom of this post.



DELL.... I had thought about the extention of the center brace before, but not the gussets on the corners. Now that you mentioned both of those I will at least put in the rear extention. Thanks for the advise, as usual, you are pretty much on target with stuff. The corner bracing will have to wait, until later, but will be done as you say.

This morning I removed both wheels and brake drums for inspection of the bearings and to see if I could do away with the brake drums altogether. Maybe when $$$$$ get better. I took one of the brake drums down to a local shop and they quoted me, JUST for parts to replace the wheel studs, and new bearings was over $30.00.
SO.....I came home with out takeing the brake drums apart, and just bought new outer races and bearings. They did not have the Timken inner races and bearings, but the ones that are in the brake drums now seem to clean up real nice and smooth.
SO..... That is where it's at now. and I'm happy that it is workin' out this good. I added up. and as of right now I have about $35.00 in this tote. There will be an additional cost when I buy the wood for the flooring.

Kinda fun to mess with stuff like this. I learn a lot more this way than if I sat on the couch and watched TV all day. :lol:
Thanks guys.

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In the spirit of reuse, recycle, and free, could you find some heavy duty skids? My local farm store throws out HD skids that are about 4X6 weekly. The tops are made of rough cut 1X4. Get enough of those together side by side and you have yourself a free floor...
Run them from side to side not front to back, and add a scrap of metal to continue your tonge beam straight back. Then you only have a 2 foot span unsupported...
The other benefit to multiple pieces is if you ever need to replace a section of floor, you take up only the effected piece, not the whole thing!
TooTall

Thanks, Gary, that is what I wanted to see.

So the wheel studs, in the hub, don't have enough threads on them to run the nuts down on the wheel, without the brake drums being on them?

Hi Gary, We must have a lot in common, I like to gather up salvageable items that I always have another idea to re-invent something. My wife labels these items junk or garbage. Usually don't pay any attention, definitely don't argue back. All is soon forgotten. A friend gave me five sets of axles a couple of weeks ago, these are stored at our summer home for future ideas. Cheers, Murray

Gary........since you don't have springs, just run yer tires UNDER-INFLATED. Maybe 15-psi? ........Dell

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Dell;
You must be psychic.....And NO...I did not mean psycho!!!! :lol:
That is exactly what I have the tires set for. I already set them @ 15lbs., then jumped up and down on the old bed. I think it will have enough bounce, and I won't have anything too heavy in that tote anyway.The tires are in good shape too.
Thanks for thinkin' about me too!!!.

Gary [/i:39317caacb][/b:39317caacb]

(quoted from post at 12:18:58 05/28/08) Thanks, Gary, that is what I wanted to see.

So the wheel studs, in the hub, don't have enough threads on them to run the nuts down on the wheel, without the brake drums being on them?

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Dunk;
You got it, right on!!! They will come off, but.....I would prob. have to buy 10 new studs and clips to hold them in, due to having to beat the old pins out. Just is not worth the extra trouble and $$$$
They will be OK I think just like they are, and if I feel like spending more on it, I can always do it.
I would need shorter bolts anyway.....So there you have it.

Gary [/i:8190bb51e7][/b:8190bb51e7]

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(quoted from post at 12:18:58 05/28/08) Thanks, Gary, that is what I wanted to see.

So the wheel studs, in the hub, don't have enough threads on them to run the nuts down on the wheel, without the brake drums being on them?

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Dunk;
You got it, right on!!! They will come off, but.....I would prob. have to buy 10 new studs and clips to hold them in, due to having to beat the old pins out. Just is not worth the extra trouble and $$$$
They will be OK I think just like they are, and if I feel like spending more on it, I can always do it.
I would need shorter bolts anyway.....So there you have it.

Gary [/i:54f72126f4][/b:54f72126f4]

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I was never talking about spending any money.

What I sometimes see in my head, and then the facts, ARE sometimes different.

Most hubs the studs press fit, with small splines, if there are clips on the outside of the brake drum, they are usaually there to keep the drum from falling off on the assembly line when there is no wheel on it. (I'm not sure what we are talking about on clips, so this may be something I have never seen before)

Most brake drums where they fit over the studs are (guessing here) 1/16" or so, maybe less.

But you have hands on, and eyes there, and I don't.

Have a good one, and keep up the good work!!!

I would pert neer bet the hubs and drums are for a lectric brake set up,,, 1 piece deal,,, some older drum set ups were a 1 piece deal,,, course 'bout all drum set ups we would find today would b a older set up,,, spec we are git'n 2 old if we know what a drum brake izz

Bout all I would add is a gusset to the drop hitch,,, a old round tire iron welded from the top to the lower section would do it,,, I have used the tire iron trick,,, cut the nut end off,,, the angle of the dangle is just rite to lay it on the tongue and weld to the top hitch section,,, problem izz were to find a dog leg tire tool,,, I spec a retired man would figger it out

I built a 4x4 carry all, no axle or wheels to fuss with.

(quoted from post at 02:51:02 05/29/08) I built a 4x4 carry all, no axle or wheels to fuss with.

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While a "carry all" style box is nice, and I have seen some nice ones built,........That would defeat my purpose for building the trailer type box.
As I stated in this post, the reason for doing this, is to allow me to use the trailer with my 2N, my 4 wheeler, and if needed, my PU truck. 8)
I guess it really comes down to what a person wants, and what the finished product is being used for.
As they say, "To each, his own!!!!"

Have an "N" day.

Gary [/i:b6f7a975a3][/b:b6f7a975a3]

About 1977 someone gave me a 1960 pop up camper with rotted canvas. I took off the canvas and used it as a utility trailer for a few years then retired it to a yard trailer. About 20 years ago I donated the aluminum body to the Girl Scouts and built a wooden body on the frame. It was dying a horrible death this year so I reboult it again. 4 X 6 stake bed, treated lumber, New tires and wheels. Total cost about $200. I figure thats about $10 per year.

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D....S....;
That is a nice lookin' "tote" trailer. I like that.
I built stake sides for my 16 ft. snowmobile trailer, and use that one for moving the longer and heavier stuff.
But that only gets used with the PU, or the 2N. The one I am building now, will be nice for small loads and use around the property. Not for road use.
Nice trailer ya got there!!!!

Gary 8) [/i:55d4bc0eec][/b:55d4bc0eec]

I have a 4x8 trailer I built over 40 years ago but the carry all is much better for most jobs.It carrys all my tools when cutting wood, building fence etc.A 4x4 trailer is too small for most work.