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john

03-23-2001 13:01:31




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Hey folks, recently bought that place in the country. Have never owned anything but a lawn tractor. Have 3+ acres of grass and looking for something bigger. I like the 8n's size, but is a tractor that old a smart buy? I'm thinking about the mechanics(I'm not one)but they do look simple enough. I've always done routine maint. on the car, is that enough? Thanks John




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BrentD

03-24-2001 08:51:59




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
John, I was in your shoes a year ago. A few more acres maybe and the need to drag some bigger logs ect. but basically the same choice. I could probably stretch to afford a used Kubota or even a new 4000 JD, but I'd rather have wood floors and a new rifle, etc.

I'm not much of mechanic either - as these good folks know all too well.

So, I researched the Ns a bit, decided an 8N was what I wanted. And bought the best one I could find. I paid more than some of the super bargan Ns out there, but I wanted one that came to me as reliable as possible. I've had to do a few things to her now and again, but I'm still $10k ahead and having much more fun.

Besides my old girl has soul that the new JD will never have. At least not in my lifetime.

Brent

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Buy SMART

03-23-2001 19:48:41




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
If your looking form something to alwalys be "working on" buy an "N", the smart buy would be new with warranty



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As much as I hate to say this.....JAFO

03-24-2001 05:35:14




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 Re: Re: Is 8n the one in reply to Buy SMART, 03-23-2001 19:48:41  
JD offers a 790 w/ dielsel engine-new about ~9000 for 2wd another ~500 for separate hydraulics (needed if you every want to effectively use a F.E. Loader)so for ~10g you can get what is a very nice little tractor. You'll have to order it though because they prfer to have the 20 thousand dollar 4000 series tractors on the lot---not sure why???? If you just want to turn the key and go to work this would be a good option.. If you don't mind having to work on your tractor (and for some here that is part of the fun) Because if you have an N eventually you will have to work on it, then get an N. I'm currently on the long term payment plan for a new tractor--setting 200 a month away til I can pay cash If I still want one at that time--plus this way I get to keep my N's Thats my advice and it's likely worth exactly what you paid for it JAFO

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Salmoneye

03-24-2001 04:54:31




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 Re: Re: Is 8n the one in reply to Buy SMART, 03-23-2001 19:48:41  
IMHO

I would rather take the $15,000+ that I save on a 'new' tractor of comparable size to the 8N, and do my own warranty work, or pay someone else to do it and still be way ahead...


:-)



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smart buy

03-23-2001 19:57:49




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 Re: Re: Is 8n the one in reply to Buy SMART, 03-23-2001 19:48:41  
Try talking to people on the "Today's Tractor" forum. Most of them own or have owned old and new



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Rod

03-23-2001 16:18:46




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
Three years ago I bought a 1952 8N from my wifes great uncle, he had it for 24 years, and it was 23 years old when he bought it. He had brought it to my 8 acres of forest land to cut the underbrush. I was amazed at how the 8N worked its way between the trees with the bushhog. If had not seen it with my own eyes I would have not believed it. I ask him to let me have first chance to buy it from him. After cutting 50 acres for 24 years he said he would like to have a larger bushhog and a diesel tractor, and he's 85 years old. The 8N is great, easy to work on, thanks to this 8N tractor web site. He bought a 35 years old ford diesel. The 8N was perfect for me, plenty of power, I even cut both sides of our parrish road for a mile on each side just to ride.

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bj/8N/mt

03-23-2001 15:51:52




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
read somewhere not to answer a question with a question--but

you gotta make a choice

do you want to play mechanic once a month or write a check once a month?

if the first get an N series ford get a twenty five dollar manual and trust me that there is nothing your can screw up beyond repair unless you ignore the answers to the questions you post on this board or you really work hard at screwing it up

if the second plenty of dealers, finance companies and dealer mechanics waiting to take your money. also free coffee most of the time

if the choice is anywhere close try to imagine yourself driving a Kubota in the forth of July parade and think again

your mileage may vary

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GoOD ANSWER, GOOD ANSWER........survey says

03-23-2001 20:00:01




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 Re: Re: Is 8n the one in reply to bj/8N/mt, 03-23-2001 15:51:52  
right to the point..



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Snowplow

03-24-2001 15:11:14




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 Re: Re: Re: Is 8n the one in reply to GoOD ANSWER, GOOD ANSWER........survey says, 03-23-2001 20:00:01  
I'd drive a Kubota in the 4th parade if they let me drive it home! I'm loyal but not stupid! I'd love a JD 790 with bucket but I'd have to sell my truck and drive it to work!



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JimNC

03-23-2001 15:49:15




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
John,
Get the N. If you can't figure something out ask this forum. Also if you do get it buy an FO-4 manual, they are the tech manuals for these tractors. The N can do about anything you ask her to.
Jim



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Dave 50 8N

03-23-2001 15:25:08




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
I suppose it depends. If your 3 acres is well manicured, and you don't want to do anything else with your property beside mow the lawn or garden, then maybe you don't need an N. You can even get category 0 implements to garden with.

If your place is kinda raw, like mine, and everyplace could use a little adjustment (take down that hill a little, grade that field, too many foxtails, grade for an above ground pool, trench for power/water, move dirt here and there, move heavy stuff (rocks, logs, lumber rack, etc.), then you might want to consider an N in good condition.

Like the posts said below, you do have to be willing to tinker some. But then you get to know your tractor and its manics. Plus it's just fun to use.

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Snowplow

03-23-2001 13:34:20




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
There are two sides tp every story. One is yes you will probably be able to fix or learn to fix most problems. And an 8N will do a lot of jobs around the house, mow, till, plow snow. The other side is that you may not always just walk out to the shed and hop right on. It may need tinkering, fixing, parts, not start today, start tomarrow, a battery charged, points set, a spark plug that can't be found a walmart. Most of us enjoy that stuff, and you may too! But many folks would see it as an extra pain. If I had all the $$$ I wanted I'd have an 8N to play with and a new compact by JD or Kubota, with a bucket and hog to do work. However that being said and me not having much $$$ I couldn't touch a modern machine that does the work my 8N does for the $2500 it's worth. And this board will get you through anything.

If you buy an N please subscribe.

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Tom-Pa

03-23-2001 13:31:29




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
Henry Ford was a smart cookie, when he made his tractors, he made them simple enough that the average farmer converting from horses to mechanical tractor could still maintain the tractor without haveing to spend precious money for a repairman.. You can do it, as so many of us have...need help? Just get on here and ask,,"Go Now and buy a N series tractor and be not afraid"
Good luck
Tom-Pa

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Are you a patient man? (ED)

03-23-2001 13:20:33




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
I have owned a 1946 2N for 10 months now. I am glad that I purchased the tractor. I had been considering a new import with live hydraulics, 4wd, the works. Price stopped me, however.

For what I needed to do, plow snow, cut grass, brush hawg, etc, the 2N has worked fine. Someday I might need to get a tractor with more hp, a loader, power steering and such. I now realize that the 2N will have held its value when that time comes to trade it in.

By the way, the last motor I worked on, before I got the 2N, was a go-kart when I was 12. So far I have been able to keep up with the repairs, thanks mostly to the guys on this board.

Tips on looking at the tractor. When you get to it, start it up. Does it start easily? let it warm up and test the throttle. Does it go from idle to full throttle smoothly? Look at the exhaust. Is it blueish or white (oil or coolant being burned). Let the engine run and watch the radiator - look at it, don't open it! Watch for leaks or steam. Try all the gears and check the steering. Steering should be tight. Look at the amp meter. If it reads negative while running or above 10 amps, be careful - might be an electrical problem. Ask if it is pos. ground 6volt or if it is a 12 volt conversion. Try the pto and hydraulics. Is there an ORC on the pto - you will want one. Does the lift go all the way up smoothly? Is there any noise from the Transmission? Can the lift support an implement? ANy squeeks or taps coming from the engine?

Once you give it a good look over, talk to the guys on this board with questions.

And good luck.

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rob 8N11071 KS

03-23-2001 13:14:29




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 Re: Is 8n the one in reply to john, 03-23-2001 13:01:31  
When I bought my place in the country last year, I went through the same debate with myself. I had a budget of $3000. I concluded that not only was getting a 50 year old tractor worthwhile, it made financial sense.

If you are looking at modern tractors in the price range of an N, you are looking at lawn tractors, not small farm tractors. You get a lot more tractor for the money. You can use implements that are sold cheap at farm sales.

For the mechanical side, I am no mechanic, but the 8N is simple enough for me to understand. I can SEE everything.

Parts are everywhere, and so are owners. The first implement I bought at an auction someone asked me what kinda of tractor I had. I said "8N".

His reply with a smile -- "Don't we all".

Be confident that 8N's hold their value so well that if you get it and don't like it, you can probably sell it quickly and make money on the deal.

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Johnc486

03-24-2001 02:59:41




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 Re: Re: Is 8n the one in reply to rob 8N11071 KS , 03-23-2001 13:14:29  
I bought a 52 8N last month (glad it was the side distributor). I have 6 acres, 4 of them for horses
mow the other 2. I couldn't afford a new tractor so I used my income tax refund and bought the 8n. I have had the carb rebuilt ($50.00) total tune up
$30.00, changed oil in engine and hydraulics $40.00, $2500.00 for tractor and tickeled to death
for the investment. I'm no mechanic but everything is so easy to work on (with the help of this board) Just a great TRACTOR in my opinion, everyone has one. Go for it.

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