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Playing in the snow could be more fun

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Clayton

02-07-2003 11:35:35




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Got 8" overnight and spent the morning plowing snow from my driveway and 4 neighbors' driveways. It was fun but could have been more fun. First my blade is too short. It doesn't span the width of the tires even if it's straight across. When it's angled, it makes an even narrower pass. What length blade can a 49 8N handle? I guess mine must be around 4 feet but I'm at work now and can't measure it. Also, I think I will spring for the Zane Thang before next winter to give me live hydraulics. Constantly putting it in nuetral to raise the blade is a pain.

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Upper Peninsual, Mich

02-08-2003 11:04:43




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
Hi Clayton. Up until this year I used a 7" rear blade that worked very well on light snow.It handled up to 8-12" fairly well. I have the 9N wheels out to the maximum and it just covers the wheel base when angled. I recently picked up an old Dearborn Front Mount snow plow and gave it a real test last week with Dave,Wi. at our camps. The front mount is definitely the way to go. You can plow and roll the snow just like a pick up plow does and you have the advantage of manuverability of the tractor. Needed a little wieght on the back, but solved that with a 16 gal. barrel filled with concrete with a rod through it mounted on the 3pt. We plowed 8" or more and probably 10 miles of road, Dave with his back blade and me with the front mount and what a difference.You can accomplish in 15-20 min. what it takes an hour or more with the back blade.Good luck. Ron

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Steve_S2

02-08-2003 21:08:21




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 Re: Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Upper Peninsual, Mich, 02-08-2003 11:04:43  
Hey UP'r Ron,

I too, have had an opportunity to plow some snow this week in West, Central WI. I've also found the need for more weight on the rear. How did you mount the 16 gal. bucket w/concrete to the rear end? It seems like something mounted to the rear would interfere with the lift arms.

I've been looking at making a platform that bolts to my swinging drawbar mounting bracket and also attaches to the two cast "eyes" on the top of the differential housing. I'm not sure if it's a good idea or not to use those "eyes" for supporting weight?

TIA,

Steve
Hudson, WI

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Upper Peninsula, Mich

02-09-2003 07:06:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Steve_S2, 02-08-2003 21:08:21  
Hi Steve. If your using a grader blade for plowing my system probably won't work for you. I took a 30" piece of 1" rebar rod and ground the ends down to 7/8" in diameter to allow them to fit into the 3pt lift ends.Drilled a hole in each end for pins. Then I made two holes in the 16 Gal. barrel right above the bottom and shoved the rebar rod thru and dumped some redimix in with very hot water and rock salt, so it wouldn't freeze. (It was 6 deg. at the time.) Then I cut two more holes near the top of the barrel and shoved another rod, (with holes in each end for pins), thru to secure the top link too. The only problem with this top link hook up is it bent the barrel the first time I raised it up, but it worked great. This week when I go back to camp, I'm going to take up another bag of redimix and dump it in. I found that it didn't take much weight to lighten up the front and increase traction on the back. I do need the extra bag though. Next summer I will make another barrel and mount the top link to the front of the barrel but secure the mount in the inside of the barrel in the concrete.I mounted the bottom rod as close the bottom of the barrel as possible so the barrel didn't drag on the ground when in the down position. This still makes it easy to hook the barrel up to the 3 pt. lift. Just tip the barrel and slide on one end.After the first side was hooked up I put a piece of 2X4 under the other side with a short piece under it and stepped on it to raise the barrel up. Simple and no broken back? If you aren't concerned about the barrel dragging, then install the bottom rod higher up on the barrel to allow you to just slip the 3 point connections on.
I was in a hurry and wanted to get to plowing with my new (old) Dearborn front mount plow, so just threw this one together,but it works very well. Hope this helps.I see you've been getting some snow and very cold weather down your way. Good Luck. Ron

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Larry in AB

02-07-2003 22:00:07




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
What system have you seen to rig up live hydraulics on a 8N? A add on pump?

Friend has a 8N with chains that he uses to clean snow with. He has a blade mounted on the front that angles. It lifts up and down by raising the 3 point hitch with a cable set up running under to the front of the tractor hooked up the blade arms. Works really slick but he's often thought of having live hydraulics on it.

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Clayton

02-09-2003 16:08:43




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 Re: Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Larry in AB, 02-07-2003 22:00:07  
Sorry for the delay in responding. Been busy. Check out the Live Thing at>Link

Everyone>Link who has tried Zane's inventions has found them to be very good.



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Larry in AB

02-07-2003 19:23:09




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
What system have you seen to rig up live hydraulics on a 8N? A add on pump?

Friend has a 8N with chains that he uses to clean snow with. He has a blade mounted on the front that angles. It lifts up and down by raising the 3 point hitch with a cable set up running under to the front of the tractor hooked up the blade arms. Works really slick but he's often thought of having live hydraulics on it.

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Whooly

02-07-2003 13:18:52




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
Here in VT we get a fair amount of snow. I've used a 7ft blade to plow about a foot of wet snow with no problems. The key is really traction. The 8N has plenty of power but, to pull a 7ft blade with heavy wet snow you'll need the tires filled and chained.



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Chris in VA

02-07-2003 11:54:07




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
I have an early 8N (48 model, made in 47) and I have been using a 6-foot blade for the past 5 years with no problems. In really heavy snow I make several passes so I can keep the snow from building up against the blade. I use cooking oil spray on my blade and it seems to help keep the snow sliding off smoothly. We had 8-10 inches here in Spotsylvania VA (just west of Fredericksburg) and I just spent 2 hours plowing my 1/2 mile gravel drive. The sun came out as I was finishing up and it is really beautiful outside now.
Chris Fair
'47 8N

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MikeC

02-07-2003 11:41:28




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
I have a 7' blade on my 2N that I have moved 14" snows before. Even angled it is wider than the tire width but can still be turned backwards if needed. There is an art to getting it set up to move the snow and toss it to the side, but once you get the top link adjusted for the angle it works great.

The Zane Thang will add position control, not live hydraulics. For that you need his Live Thang I think.

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Philip

02-07-2003 11:41:26




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 Re: Playing in the snow could be more fun in reply to Clayton, 02-07-2003 11:35:35  
I use a 7' blade. My tires are loaded, and just slightly wider than standard. This gives me about 4" of blade on either side of the tire with blade at 1st angle. Philip.



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