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Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower

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Ken C. '54 NAA

03-25-2002 05:49:22




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Getting ready for a season of mowing at the new homestead. I've got 2.5 acres of yard to cut and have bought a used JD 6' finishing mower to do the job with the family heirloom '54 NAA.

The mower has limiter chains, but also has front wheels/rollers to keep the height constant. My question is - Why even use the chains? Wouldn't I want the mower to be able to move up and down freely over the hills?

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Ken Cullinan
'54 NAA
'64 Dodge W200
'71 Dodge Demon

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Al English

03-25-2002 08:06:04




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 Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Ken C. '54 NAA, 03-25-2002 05:49:22  
Hi Ken,

Limiter chains are used to limit the side to side movement of an implement. As George said, without them the mower will not track predictably. With a finish mower I would use a stabilizer kit rather than chains. With the mower free to move sideways it is difficult to maneuver around trees, buildings, fences, etc. You are correct about vertical motion. The mower should be free to follow the terrain independent of the tractor. With some mower configurations there is little or no provision for that movement. On those mowers, replacing the top link with a piece of chain will usually remedy the problem. Check out your mower's design to see if a chain top link is needed, and will work with your mower. Good luck...Al English

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Al English

03-25-2002 16:49:15




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 Re: Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Nope, that ain't right................dave#1, 03-25-2002 15:55:31  
Hi Dave,

Ken indicated that his mower was one that has front wheels. That being the case, there is no need to support the front of his mower to control its height. My original post addressed both the stabilizer chains that attach to the lower links to limit lateral movement, and the advantages associated with using a chain top link. The mower pictured in your post is one that does need to be supported at the front, which is another subject entirely. However, if I failed to make myself clear I apologize...Al English

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dave#1

03-26-2002 04:23:16




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Al English, 03-25-2002 16:49:15  

Please let me apologize if I mis-read your first sentence,
>>Limiter chains are used to limit the side to side movement of an implement<<

Last I knew Limiter chains are used for "Height", not side to side. I would hate to see a fella go to his local Ag store and buy a set of "Limiter chains" then go home and pull his hair out cause he's trying to use them for sway bars !

later,dave



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Ken C. '54 NAA

03-26-2002 05:36:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to dave#1, 03-26-2002 04:23:16  
I've got "stabilizer bars" on the tractor already (or whatever those extra bars are called that hook to the lower two points of the three point hitch)so I've got lateral movement taken care of.

I can see the argument for the vertical limiters if you aren't running a Zane Thang on an earlier tractor and want to maintain a certain height, but I've got position control and front wheels on the mower.

Unless anyone can think of any other safety-related reason why not, I'm going to just take them off.

Ken Cullinan
'54 NAA
'64 Dodge W200
'71 Dodge Demon

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Ken C. '54 NAA

03-27-2002 06:43:02




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to '71 Dodge Demon ?????......................dave#1, 03-26-2002 15:14:35  
Love them Mopars! I sold my '68 Coronet with a factory 383HP a few years ago to start my on the Power Wagon - thought my Hot Rod days were over for awhile then got an offer I couldn't refuse to get the Demon!!

It is in a primitive state at this point, waiting for its turn to come up on my ever rotating list of projects, but I'm looking forward to spending some elbow grease on getting it running and nicer looking.

Ken Cullinan
'54 NAA
'64 Dodge W200 Power Wagon
'71 Dodge Demon

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Jim(FL) AL ?????

03-25-2002 09:56:24




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 Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Al English, 03-25-2002 08:06:04  
AL, If I am picturing this correctly, you are recommending that the upper link could be replaced with a piece of chain? IS this dangerous? Wouldn't this allow the implement (in this case a finish mower) the possiblity of swinging back up onto the tractor (highly unlikely but possible) if the deck or blades hit something hard?

I just had this visual picture of an accident waiting to happen, you know the "Murphy thing". Jim

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Al English

03-25-2002 16:21:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Jim(FL) AL ?????, 03-25-2002 09:56:24  
Mike posted a good answer to your question, but for some reason his response is only viewable when the "+" next to the original post is clicked.

Anyway, yes, I am talking about replacing the upper link with chain. I didn't originate this idea, but have seen it done many times. Using a tractor with a brush mower, and a front blade to bend them over, I have cleared some pretty decent sized trees. Doing this throws around plenty of baseball bat hunks of wood, it makes a lot of noise, you can't go too fast, and it's rough on the tractor, but there seems to be no safety problems relating to the chain top link. I have also hit large stumps and rocks with no problems. Apparently the blades don't exert much upward force on the mower unit. If the mower deck did try to fly up, interference with the driveshaft would take place long before things got ugly...Al English

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Mike

03-25-2002 12:37:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Jim(FL) AL ?????, 03-25-2002 09:56:24  
Using the chain top link allows flex so that when you go through a dip the back or the mower can flex up without damage. If you have a solid upper link when the rear of the mower flexes up it pokes a hole in the top of your mower deck, and then you repair that and go get and install a chain upper link, your choice.
Mike



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Goerge Willer

03-25-2002 07:20:38




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 Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Ken C. '54 NAA, 03-25-2002 05:49:22  
Ken,

You should use either limiter chains or a sway bar to assure that the mower tracks predictably. You choose.

George Willer



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George Willer

03-25-2002 07:22:30




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 Re: Re: Limiter Chains on the Finishing Mower in reply to Goerge Willer, 03-25-2002 07:20:38  
Someone misspelled my name...I think it was me! :-(

George Willer



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