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Is it a 2N or a 9N?

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IndyAndy

11-20-2002 18:43:06




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Got a 46 Ford tractor. I was told it is a 9N. The axle housing number starts with 2N. Whats the difference between a 9N and a 2N? Trying to make out the number on the left side of engine block but its not real clear.




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Jim.UT

11-20-2002 20:15:09




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 Re: Is it a 2N or a 9N? in reply to IndyAndy, 11-20-2002 18:43:06  
Lots of people will refer to a 2N as a 9N because the differences were so subtle. Some say the "new" model designation of 2N was done simply to get around wartime price controls....if it was a "new" model, they could bump the price. I do know that Ford didn't even bother to start over with a new series of serial numbers like they did 6 years later with the 8N. Here's a site that talks more about the differences from year to year.

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bg

11-21-2002 04:53:59




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 Re: Re: Is it a 2N or a 9N? in reply to George Willer, 11-20-2002 19:21:50  
"but many people, including me, consider nearly all of them to be 9N's up until mid '47. "

Leffingwell, Ford Farm Tractors, p 141:(quote)

"This is to advise you,"John Chambers wrote from Dearborn on April 7, 1942, to Roger Kyes, Ferguson-Shrman's executive vice-president and sales manager, "that owing to the numerous changes which have been made to the tractor since it was designed in 1939, and because of the fact that steel wheels are now being fitted, The Ford Motor Company is now changing the model number from 9N to 2N." Laurence Sheldrick defined nomenclature further as of Spetember 22, in a memo to Kyes, identifying all farm tractors as 2N and all industrial tractors as 2NBN. Motor numbers would continue in the 9N series, however. The OPA froze all retail prices during the war. The only way a manufacturer could increase these was to introduce a new model incorporating changes. Ford's 2N was such an example, and Ford raised the price $60 to Ferguson-Sherman, who passed on $30 to the farmer. (unquote)

So it seems the official Ford position was that it was the 2N from that point forward, regardless of what anybody else thought or what changes were actually made.

Martin Guitar made a model D-28 before the war. It's commonly referred to as a "herringbone" owing to the style of wood marquetry around the top. The post-war D-28 lacked the wood marquetry, until 1976, when a model HD-28(Herringbone D-28) was introduced, incorporating many of the features of the pre-war "herringbone." If nothing else, new nomenclature helps the buying public discern a time-frame in which their product was made.

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George Willer

11-21-2002 06:41:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Is it a 2N or a 9N? in reply to bg, 11-21-2002 04:53:59  
BG,

Yes, we can agree the 2N introduced in 1942 was a slightly different tractor as it was produced for what I understand was a period of 10 months. The CYA letter indicates that as well. What it doesn't cover is the fact that after the 10 months, Ford went back to producing nearly the EXACT tractor as the 9N.

Now, if you or anyone else will make a list of the ways an early 1943 differed from a late 1941 other than selling price it would be enlightening. I think they are more nearly alike than any other two consecutive years.

Last I looked, my '46 is still a 9N.

George Willer

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Don't shoot.....bg

11-21-2002 07:24:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Is it a 2N or a 9N? in reply to George Willer, 11-21-2002 06:41:50  
...the messenger. If Ford officially called it a 2n, even if it was a CYA move, it's a 2N, AFAIC.



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