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Lights on a positive grd.??

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goinNutts

11-03-2001 06:23:28




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this is prob, a question that has been asked and answered before, but here goes again ,,,, I want to put lights on my 9n It is original 6 volt positive ground,,,, my question,,,, when hooking up the wires does the red "hot" lead go to the hot lead {-} off the battery ,and the black "ground" go to ground like on a 12 volt neg ground,,,or is it all reversed because of the positive ground 9n???? is everyone confused yet?? I tghink I am getting more confused by my post than the problem ,hahahaha,,, ps.. just got done yesterday splitting "I hope" all of my firewood with the old girl never missing a beat,,, but when I went to move her into the barn,, I noticed some black smoke and a lil stumble ,, I'm going to clean the plugs,,, is this because it sat there idling for such a extended period of time ya think??? starts rite up quicker than ever just the smoke and stumble concerned me a lil,,, but must just be a lil too much carbon, thnaks guys

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Dan - Elect 101

11-03-2001 18:35:10




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 Re: lights on a positive grd.?? in reply to goinNutts, 11-03-2001 06:23:28  
It doesn't matter which way the electrons flow through a light bulb --it will still light up the same .

The socket is wired so that the outside of the bulb is grounded ,and the other side of the filament is connected to the centre terminal .

To have a +ve or -ve ground battery only makes the electrons flow the opposite way through the wires . And they always flow from the -ve post through the wiring -to the +ve post of the batt .

Looking at this another way-- a 100 watt light bulb ,house wiring , has the current flowing both directions --first one way --then the other way --and back the first way , etc. -- changes direction 60 times per second --hence 60 cps .

The only reson for concern is the polarity or output polarity of the generator or the alternator -- the battery and gen/alt must be matched to the batt configuration ,and vice-versa

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HoyBoy

11-03-2001 15:02:43




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 Re: lights on a positive grd.?? in reply to goinNutts, 11-03-2001 06:23:28  
I'm having problems with the same project. My tractor is 12 volt positive ground. I put on new 12 volt headlights, new taillight with 12 volt bulb, and a new light switch. I wired both the headlights and the taillight to the same terminal on the light switch, the other terminal of the light switch (the fused side)I ran to the ignition switch so that the lights cannot be turned on unless the ignition switch is on. The headlights work but no taillight. If I run a wire to from the negative side of the battery to one of the taillight mount bolts, the taillight lights. The fix is probably simple but I don't get it. Any ideas?

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HoyBoy

11-03-2001 17:57:50




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 Re: Re: lights on a positive grd.?? in reply to HoyBoy, 11-03-2001 15:02:43  
O.K. Thanks Dell. I just hooked up the lights today & now they are disconnected. Maybe my manauls will be here soon and there will be wiring diagrams etc. to tell me where to make connections.



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DO NOT . . . Dell (WA)

11-03-2001 16:59:50




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 Re: Re: lights on a positive grd.?? in reply to HoyBoy, 11-03-2001 15:02:43  
HoyBoy..... ...DO NOT run your headlight switch thru your ignition switch. (unless you have a "heavy duty" non-standard switch) The OEM factory ignition switch internal contacts are good for about 5 amps which is plenty good for the 3 amps the ignition requires. BUT CAN NOT HANDLE the additional electrical Amps required to run your headlights (about 10 amps) nor the attitional 3 amps of a taillight.

If'n you continue to run your headlight thru your ignition switch, its gonna burn out the switch contacts and then you'll wonder why you can start your engine and it quits in about 10 minutes and won't restart until tomorrow.

If'n ya feel ya just gotta idiotproof your headlights, then ya gotta wire up a load shedding RELAY that is operated by the ignition switch. Most Relays take milliamps to operate great big ol'contacts that'll handle 30 amps, which by the way, is the way modern automobiles do it anyways..... ....Dell

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Michael D

11-03-2001 12:41:35




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 Re: lights on a positive grd.?? in reply to goinNutts, 11-03-2001 06:23:28  
I would wire the lights with the black wire to ground. Some lights have the ground going through the case of the light so if you wire it with "+" to ground you may wind up with a short to ground.

That's my input from an old "shadetree" mechanic.



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Lester

11-03-2001 07:32:06




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 Re: lights on a positive grd.?? in reply to goinNutts, 11-03-2001 06:23:28  
Lights will work either way,wire from amp to switch to light should on old bulb type light should go to center contact of bulb, seeled beam no difference



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