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New to me 2N

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Grouchonacouch

11-23-2022 12:20:06




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Also new to this site. Hi!
Anyhoo, I'll get right to my problem. :D I've been cleaning up some previous owner type "repairs" for lack of a better term. This includes replacing the hack job, spaghetti, bypass, wire nut, disconnected, and otherwise totally unacceptable wiring. Pardon my rant. I chose to go 12v - ground alternator route. I got the deluxe kit with all new cables, ballast resistor, etc. Easy install. Neat and clean just the way I like it. The whole thing functions flawlessly.
BUTT,
while driving the tractor the other day for no particular reason other than because I can, I was turning left off a lime rock driveway onto a grassy area and the right front drag link made contact with the alternator cooling fins because of a change in the angle of the front axle. What a horrible noise. like 20 fingernails on a chalkboard.
My initial thought is to move the spindles out to the next width. I'll only be using the machine for brush hogging, raking and grading. So width is not critical.
Thoughts?
Anyone have a similar experience with the alternator conversion on a front mount distributor tractor?
This post was edited by Grouchonacouch on 11/24/2022 at 09:02 am.

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Grouchonacouch

11-25-2022 11:26:27




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
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Sounds familiar. I won't be near the tractor until late next week. I'm still going to check for slop in that axle pivot but, I'm leaning toward your solution.



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Grouchonacouch

11-25-2022 11:22:27




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
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Agreed! Of course, retrofitting anything old with new has it's quirks I suppose.



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Hidude

11-24-2022 21:01:35




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
I had the same problem with my 2n conversion. I tried 3 different belts. Could not get the belt to clear the distributor and the alternator to not hit the drag link. It took me longer than It should have to figure out I need to widen the axle. Mine was set all the way in. Moved it out 1 hole on each side and my clearance issues were fixed



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DennyD

11-24-2022 13:47:00




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
In my limited experience, alternator placement/mounting on these is surprisingly touchy. I had to take off the alternator that came on my 8N to have it rebuilt, then had a heckuva time getting it back on just right using what appears to be a modified bracket. When I first started the engine, the belt was squealing badly and there was an obvious alignment issue. It turned out that I had the washers on the mounting hardware positioned wrong with the bolts; after correcting, the belt runs just fine.

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Grouchonacouch

11-24-2022 09:10:07




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
I had to do some "adjusting" of the bottom bracket to get the alternator low enough and far enough away from the engine for the belt to clear the distributor. Thats' why the top adjustment is almost all the way out. It looks like the belt is too long but, any shorter and it would rub the bottom of the distributor. Using the kit I bought that's right where it has to be.



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Grouchonacouch

11-24-2022 09:01:41




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
OOPS! Typo..It's negative ground.



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Eman85

11-24-2022 08:40:24




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
Why did you go positive ground?



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Grouchonacouch

11-24-2022 07:51:43




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
Thanks for the free advice! When I get back, I'll jack it up and check how much play there is in the pivot.
I've installed the shortest belt possible without the belt making contact with the distributor.

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Bruce(OR)

11-24-2022 13:37:20




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-24-2022 07:51:43  
Tires that way to get you out of hole you might get stuck in. More traction.



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HFJ

11-23-2022 13:34:52




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
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yes, i had the same issue. the problem was as Duey highlighted - the belt was too long.



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duey

11-23-2022 12:33:24




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 Re: New to me 2N in reply to Grouchonacouch, 11-23-2022 12:20:06  
You don't indicate just how you are set up but.. making use of the SHORTEST Belt possible is a good place to start. Having a badly worn center pin on the fronbt axle may allow it to travel further than fresh parts would allow... Free advice...



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