Whats that sound....?

I moved my new to me 8n under a tree to start fixing it up to put to work, I turned it off and heard an odd noise. I thought one of the cows nearby was taking a leak.

It wasn't the cow.






I didnt think to closely examine the rims or ask the guy if they were loaded. :roll:

Well this one WAS.

The other one is leaking too.

The way it is leaking your fixxen to by couple tubes.

Will you reload the fluid in them?
CaCl gets a bad rap but I still use it.
Am an advocate of ballast on tractors.
Some kind of weights - fluid or cast iron,
barbell weights, 400 feet of chain, manhole
covers? will make it a more stable machine
on side hills or high speed turns and front
weights help prevent rearing when using a
disc, heavy mower or boom pole.
The tractor can't put its full horsepower
to the ground without extra weight on the
rear too.

No I'm not going to load em... not really necessary for my use. Once I get them fixed, I plan on getting a 3point scoop for the back, I'll fill that full of chain and scrap steel I use around here for ballast. All its being used for is turning compost piles so the FEL load isnt excessive....probably less than 500# a bucketful, its one of those narrow wagner loader buckets.

I
m not sure how to fix these things, its only the valve stem hole that is a bit crusty and broke out a bit more than the stem hole was. I was thinking drill a new hole in a good spot for the stem and bondo that rot hole from the inside and smooth it out then put good rim liners in there on top if it doesnt have em already.

One of those learn as I go moments. :lol:

This post was edited by Nyquil Junkie on 08/18/2022 at 05:58 pm.

Yep, B4 Pie Weights, heavy cast rings, and Beet Juice, ballast was recommended to use Ca Cl and it works well as Utradog said. Problem is once the valve stem starts
leaking, the usual first place it begins, it will spread over the tubes and get into the rims. Then the oxidation starts. By the time rust appears on the outside it is
too late to salvage the rims from total cancer. Look how bad yours are on just the outside. If you wish to salvage them now is the time to drain, remove, inspect, and if
usable, get washed out rims and tires first, get new tubes, and decide if you are going to need to use extra ballast at all. If your needs are basic lawn mowing and maybe
snow removal, may not need extra ballast at all. Or if you have a restored, trailer queen tractor only for show, you don't need the extra weight as well. Your local AG
TIRE dealer is a good place to get your tractor tire needs done at. There are manuals with instructions on how to load and drain yourself, but I've found it worth teh
$$$to just let my dealer do it -he has all the tools, equipment, and experience. Your call. FWIW & FYI: Ca Cl is a good weed killer to spread on your driveway.


Tim Daley(MI)

Yes, you can drill a new hole.
Note where the original hole is relative to
the loops and put it in the same location.
No kind of pucky ie, bondo, JB weld, etc
will last. Best to weld if you can.
I had to repair these rims from rust-
through in several spots.
I had them sand blasted first.
Then, because I didn't have my welding
equipment set up I brazed the holes.
13x38 rims. Cost prohibitive new and
expensive used - if you can find them.


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(quoted from post at 01:41:47 08/19/22) Problem is once the valve stem starts
leaking, the usual first place it begins, it will spread over the tubes and get into the rims. Then the oxidation starts. By the time rust appears on the outside it is
too late to salvage the rims from total cancer.
Tim Daley(MI)

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Thats what I'm thinking, the inside of the rims might be shot as well.

decide if you are going to need to use extra ballast at all. If your needs are basic lawn mowing and maybe
snow removal, may not need extra ballast at all. Or if you have a restored, trailer queen tractor only for show, you don't need the extra weight as well.

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This one is no trailer queen... more like a coal mine pit pony.

All flat ground manure and compost cleanup. Ballast in the tires might be a good idea, it gets a little slippery sometimes.

Your local AG
TIRE dealer is a good place to get your tractor tire needs done at.

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I found a local on site farm tire repair co. that does this kind of work I have to call them today. If they can salvage the rim, the tires are in pretty good condition, good tread and very little cracking if any. IF they are equipped in their mobile unit to load new tubes, it probably would in the end be a good idea to just have them loaded with some new non-corrosive stuff. The rim condition will be the kicker.

Cost prohibitive new and
expensive used - if you can find them.

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I've been looking, I found a couple sets of tires and rims but, for the price they want, It would be better for me to find someones failed restore project with new tires they want to get rid of cheap as a whole tractor. Those come up here actually pretty often.

But yer right, I probably should fill those tubes if I can while I am doing it. :lol:

I'm not sure what your local tire service place charges for field service calls, but mine was a whole lot cheaper for me to remove the rim and tire and bring it in on a utility trailer.

My tires aren't loaded so that saved me a great deal of hassle.

I found a local mobile ag tire business, a nice young guy just getting his own business started. He was out here this morning, took both tires off, washed em fixed the rim and put in new tubes.

$350 but I could not have done that with a bad back, nor did I have the skill to fix that rim as well as he did. He did not have the stuff to fill them but he said if I wanted them filled he can come out later and fill em with wiper fluid. The other rim he said was almost new so... no worry there.

I took em up the road to check some tires on my neighbors tractor she thought were screwy. He got a new client there as she needs tires on some machinery she has. Also her daughter has a dairy and she took some business cards to pass on to them as well.

So he made out pretty good today before noon.

I dont mind paying for stuff like that when you get good fast service for stuff I cant do anymore.

So.... all is right with the world again.


This post was edited by Nyquil Junkie on 08/20/2022 at 08:49 am.

I'm too darned cheap to spend $350.
I put these tires on about a month ago.
14.9x30
Took the old ones off then installed new
tubes and tires.
The rims were in good shape.
They were not loaded but fluid is not hard
to deal with.
I do have 2 barrels of calcium behind the
garage and will fill them once I finish the
tractor.

I'm certainly acquainted with the sound...

Temperature hit 98 F and a rear Tire burst on my 2-N..

A Ferguson parts Tractor stepped up to the plate.... perfect match....

Bob..

I'm too darned cheap to spend $350.

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Normally, so would I be, but I'm in the middle of a bad arthritis flare and I just couldnt do it. I did sit for a long while staring at that flat tire thinking "Ive broke down truck tires before how hard can this be?" Then I stood up and turned wrong and the pain down my leg told me that indeed it would be harder than it looked.

:lol:

For once I just opted not to hurt myself. Besides if it goes flat again I can blame someone else for pinching the tube or not doing it right. The guy said if it goes flat in the next week or so he would fix it.

So far its still round.

Ahh yes.
Pain.
That all too frequent reminder of safety,
smart work habits and knowing one's
limitations. I understand and sympathize
with you.